Greetings,

First of all, to clear up this entire "spam" issue, I didn't even see a spam issue come up until d00dman assumed that provoko was going to spam. Apparently, he was corrected by provoko. Then, that didn't suit d00dman, so he replied again with how the forum wouldn't help with spam. Moving right along, Raccoon (and the rest of the #mIRC clique on DALnet) decided to gear up and belittle this poor fellow who (from my perspective) had an innocent question... There's a problem, however. I found his question to be quite ambiguous and wanted clarification on "promote". And since I like answering questions that are clear and concise, I asked for provoko to clear up that ambiguity.

(Just what kind of a forum is this?!)

I took the incentive to answer his question since nobody wanted to give him an honest answer...which is what he (and everyone else) wanted and deserved from the start. And, from there, ParaBrat and Raccoon completely changed the subject by misinterpreting the question of the user. I'm not going to tell you to read "this thread" and "that thread" ... if you look, you can see my stance on that.

Raccoon:
Some of my text carried over here from another thread -- so, to a degree, you're correct... but not totally.

My problem starts with false assumptions. We're human and we're all wrong from time to time. I have a problem when someone says: "Oh, he's a moderator." -- it doesn't necessarily mean he or she is correct! Some of these users and moderators have read too far into everything rather than take the thread for face value.

Mentality:
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Another reason for the ethics being put across to others is a way to back up a reason for not helping them. For example, if someone asks to advertise then instead of simply saying "We don't help with that, sorry." we can say "we don't help with that, sorry - this is because..." etc - In this case, it is likely to get the user banned from a channel, network/server or forum.


Well, wouldn't it have been far easier to skip the post (or write a private message) and move to the next rather than writing a verbose reply telling the user that you don't personally help with that topic?

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If you did bother to click the link to that thread in my last post, you would have seen that there are people who are willing to follow the fair and simple 'netiquette', and on top of this are thankful to us for guiding them and informing them.


Well, although that was all very nice and kind, it was a wasted thread which wasn't really important for anyone to read. We all know volunteering is a dirty job... that's why some people never bother to do it. We can alleviate problems by simply avoiding certain issues and problems.

Finally, I won't sit around and pay homage to anyone, including moderators, users, and small cliques that hang around #mIRC on DALnet. That's my conformity problem. I am not impressed or dazzled by your star rating or number of posts. I didn't come here to play a game of numbers from people that tell me: "I was here first" ... I instead started here not long ago to find out how to make a change and solve a problem I'm having with mIRC, to learn more about mIRC, and to answer questions -- not get into an ethics debate with biased people (from #mIRC on DALnet) who want to tell me how to utilize IRC and what mIRC was designed for. If I really want to know why mIRC was designed and why what features exist there, I'll ask Khaled himself... since he wrote it.

Regards,

John