The ethics promoted on these boards are only there to teach newbies basically how to act on IRC - Over time there has been a general 'netiquette' formed and we like to, ironically, promote that to the newbies.

There is a certain way to act and we like to think that most of the people on IRC will act like this....of course, as with all things, there will be people that don't. As I said before however, that does not mean we have to contribute to people acting in such a way. If you did bother to click the link to that thread in my last post, you would have seen that there are people who are willing to follow the fair and simple 'netiquette', and on top of this are thankful to us for guiding them and informing them.

Another reason for the ethics being put across to others is a way to back up a reason for not helping them. For example, if someone asks to advertise then instead of simply saying "We don't help with that, sorry." we can say "we don't help with that, sorry - this is because..." etc - In this case, it is likely to get the user banned from a channel, network/server or forum.

As for your silly accusation about me simply posting to get my username posted on a Forum or to become a moderator, perhaps you would like to consider that some people do just happen to like to help - everyone has their own reasons. I'm sure you've heard most of them, "giving something back" or "helping is fun" or indeed both. Sure, there are some people that help in the hope that they will gain some sort of status. As someone who has watched people help so that they can gain status in certain channels I have been opped in, I know it's possible to spot these people a mile off. I wouldn't waste my time, nor am I naive and think that defending a moderator or "brown nosing" is a quick sure fire way to getting moderator status, that is not how things work. TBH, I would defend anyone, because I am a very opinionated person and I strongly believe that people who devote hours of their time to helping others should be shown courtesy, perhaps even a little more than others because of their good nature in doing so. Again, go back to the thread I linked to last time and you'll see a number of people who devote their time to helping and deserve the credit that is given in that thread. I have spoken to ParaBrat online and she is a very nice person and easy person to chat with - only enforcing my feelings on the subject.

You're entitled to your opinion though I guess, even if nobody, except the odd lamer, does care or agree with it.

EVH: Yes, some people do evade Forum bans - one of the many reasons the word 'Lamer' exists.

I must admit I did feel compelled to reply to this post despite ethically not wanting to - this will be the last post (from me) in this thread however, because as usual this is a heated subject which always ends up in childish arguing, so I won't be posting in this thread again as it has faded away into pointlessness. Again.

Happy chatting smile

Regards,