Well the fact that Khaled uses VC 7.0 is one of the reasons I won't use mIRC 6.1. VC 7.0 has many problems. There is a glitch in the optimizer, I've had programs where it screws things up. The problem was fixed in the new version of VC, which for whatever reason, Khaled decided not to use. Plus, seeing as how Khaled has said he always made sure mIRC compiles in VC6, there should have been NO recoding necessary to make it work in VC7 since it is totally backwards compatible.