Ok changing the 10 to 8 seems to have worked. smile
Still that mysterious white space there, what causes
that? Not important it's just odd

Also is there any way to stop the mirc window
flashing when the list is automatically updated?

I like mirc flashing when new text is in the channel
I am in etc, that is what I have it set to do and I like
that, but it's a bit confusing now it flashes too when
the list updates, giving me a "false alarm" thinking
people are talking when they're not smirk confused