thank you much :tongue:, if I were to use an owner drawn menu associated with a tray icon, what should I use as a device context for drawing the menu items? I haven't looked into the function yet (I'm on the wrong comp for that, as always :tongue:) but would i have to use TrackPopupMenu/Ex? I suppose that is something i'll find out when i look into it tho :tongue:... anyway, thanks so much for the help, saves me a lot of time peeking through the help file for dif macros/apis.