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Internal support for CIDR-type addresses #168477 09/01/07 03:59 AM
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With many IRC servers now supporting CIDR address bans, it is practically a necessity for IRC clients to do so as well.

Even though custom CIDR ban/op/voice/etc. lists can be scripted with relative ease, internal support in mIRC (mainly for access levels in the User List) would be really nice and would make things much simpler.

Re: Internal support for CIDR-type addresses [Re: Strider] #204772 01/10/08 03:38 AM
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I think this deserves a bump.

Re: Internal support for CIDR-type addresses [Re: Strider] #204773 01/10/08 04:31 AM
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Just wondering...

Which irc servers are now supporting CIDR bans? I'm not aware of many. Which irc clients are currently supporting this?


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Re: Internal support for CIDR-type addresses [Re: argv0] #204775 01/10/08 05:51 AM
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I don't know if there is an IRC client out there that has internal support yet, and I didn't state otherwise over a year ago when I proposed this. I stated that it's practically a need now (perhaps exaggerating a bit).

As for servers, the ones that I can recall are ircu, ircd-ratbox (and ircd-hybrid), IRCnet ircd, UnrealIRCd and Bahamut (the last two only for akill, kline, gline, etc, last time I checked), which are some of the least important IRCd's out there...

And even if no server supported CIDR bans, it would still be a good idea to have a client that does so, since it's a nice way of leaving out troublesome users without having to ban the range of a whole ISP. This is the reason IRCd's started supporting this in the first place.

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Re: Internal support for CIDR-type addresses [Re: Strider] #204846 03/10/08 10:25 PM
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I'll add a vote for some CIDR support. smile

Great for ignores as well as user list and bans.

Re: Internal support for CIDR-type addresses [Re: deegee] #204855 04/10/08 03:06 AM
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ok, and CIDR means what?


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Re: Internal support for CIDR-type addresses [Re: landonsandor] #204856 04/10/08 03:39 AM
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Originally Posted By: landonsandor
ok, and CIDR means what?

It means 'Google'.

No, really.

It does!

Re: Internal support for CIDR-type addresses [Re: Strider] #204860 04/10/08 07:06 AM
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I think we're on the same page that it's a good idea-- the problem I can forsee is that if only a few servers implement this its hard to tell if servers are implementing this in a standardized fashion or not. If mIRC chooses the current implementation and something changes down the line with the majority of other servers, it may become even more of a problem having it broken than not having it at all.


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Re: Internal support for CIDR-type addresses [Re: Strider] #204864 04/10/08 09:46 AM
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It wouldn't work in mirc the same way it works with irc servers: irc servers typically match the CIDR mask against the users' IP address even if they have a resolved hostname, while mirc cannot just resolve every hostname before doing the matching. It's always going to be half-broken in that sense anyway (this is not specific to CIDR bans btw); I would say stuff like this should remain in the realm of scripting.


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Re: Internal support for CIDR-type addresses [Re: landonsandor] #204866 04/10/08 10:52 AM
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Re: Internal support for CIDR-type addresses [Re: Sat] #204876 04/10/08 07:38 PM
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That's actually a good point. I didn't think of it that way before. I guess I'm too used to being on servers that show the IP address.