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It took 10 years for most programs to really turn towards UTF-8/16 I hardly think that you can fault mIRC for not supporting it before practically anything else did.

Of course I can! smile But it would be pointless. I fully understand that in 1995 developers did not really care about Unicode, neither did most of them know it existed. I'm not blaming Khaled for missing this point. That was too common back then. In fact it's still quite common now. frown

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mIRC obtained it's overwhelming majority of the IRC client market by being the best client for the users, Microsoft got the browser market for IE by slapping it in with their OS which already controlled the desktop computer market and then breaking compatability with other browsers.

IE was the best browser back then... Actually, a lot of people don't distinguish mIRC and IRC. They think that's the same. And a lot of irc'ers don't really know there are alternatives. I'm not saying mIRC is a bad IRC client. It's a good one. Really. However, there's a lot of good IRC clients out there. And most of them don't suport Unicode. And most of them won't support it until mIRC supports it. That's why we're so insistive on that. We just want mIRC to be better at this point.

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I don't think he lacks the basic logic it takes to see that UTF-8 is an important and useful feature to have in an IRC client, do you? Assuming you don't I hope you can understand why I don't see why people insist on 'bashing about it' as you call it, it's not going to get the job done any faster.

Yeah, you're right about that. What we actually wanted was to affect Khaled's priorities in his to-do list. smile I hope, we did. No flaming anymore. peace. smile

Last edited by RQ_; 05/07/04 10:52 AM.