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Paying for irc... haha. #54372 13/10/03 09:43 PM
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yo i just installed irc 6.13 or whatever, and its trying to make me pay $20.00 to use it?? what the hell is that??

ok lets see, do i go get my credit card, type in the number and throw away 20 quid to some greedy programmer?

or i can just download a keygen.

when will you internet geeks learn to stop ripping people off, if you want to make a product and sell it at least make something which cant be so easily bypassed.

your just trying to kill irc, as new users will be put of by having to pay and any person with a brain cell will just download a keygen.

Re: Paying for irc... haha. #54373 13/10/03 09:45 PM
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Psst: mIRC != all of IRC

And you've always had to pay $20. Just because you've avoided doing it, or tricked yourself into thinking it was free, mIRC is shareware.

Re: Paying for irc... haha. #54374 13/10/03 09:50 PM
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Mirc always shareware? ive used it for years and never had that crap like PAY WITHIN 30 DAYS bullshit.

why doesnt the guy make it like donation software like bittorrent, that way normal people dont have to care about paying and u will still get idiots willing to part with their cash for no reason, but saying u only get it for 30 days will just throw new users away from mirc.

Re: Paying for irc... haha. #54375 13/10/03 09:52 PM
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You people are such <deleted by moderator>. I would just love to know how many times it took for you to be dropped on your head as an infant to make you <ditto>to believe that just because it's IRC related, it must be free. mIRC is a product, and just like any other product, it costs money. Did you act like a <ditto> when you got your Gateway pc, did you expect them to give it to you for free? How about AOL, do you act like an idiot every month when you pay your ISP bill? How about your zit cream, did you get it for free?<deleted by mod> Well, that was probably a bad example because, to you that probably was free, but your dad had to pay for it.

<Brat note: please dont name call no matter how well deserved>

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Re: Paying for irc... haha. #54376 13/10/03 09:55 PM
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And if everything was free, then you'd be trying to light a fire with a few sticks in a cold, damp forest.

Ignorance is no excuse for not knowing the legality of what you're doing. It's very easy to know that mIRC has been shareware for a long time. I obviously found out, since I registered it. If it was that well hidden, then Khaled would have been out of work ages ago..

The program won't stop working. It'll just pester you every day until you break.

Re: Paying for irc... haha. #54377 13/10/03 09:57 PM
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Yes, how dare someone expect to be paid for the work they've been doing for the last decade. What a ridiculous concept that people should be paid so that they can make a living and continue to develop the programs that you use. Do you have a job? Do you work for free? Do you like to eat or provide for your family?


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Re: Paying for irc... haha. #54378 13/10/03 09:59 PM
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correction, it wont pester me anymore because i key'd it.

its nerds like this that are ruining the internet, supposedly a nice free medium, if everyone was like him then we would have to pay for visiting [censored] webpages.

Thankfully there will always be warez people out there who understand that the internet isnt just an extension of your local mall.

Re: Paying for irc... haha. #54379 13/10/03 10:01 PM
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You seriously think that IRC is free?

I wonder who's footing the bandwidth bill for your illegal actions, or what source you're trying to get the "free medium" ideas from.

Re: Paying for irc... haha. #54380 13/10/03 10:07 PM
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if everyone was like him then we would have to pay for visiting [censored] webpages.

If that were true then you wouldn't have been able to make that post would you? In fact the idea is starting to grow on me. I'd be willing to pay to never see idiots like you again.

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its nerds like this that are ruining the internet, supposedly a nice free medium

No it's <people> like you who are ruining the internet, never taking responsibility for anything you do, expecting everything to be given to you and to never give anything in return - all the while never truly understanding the ideas which created the internet or understanding how it works or the money that is required to keep every page on the internet running. Every single one. How did you connect to the net, was the ISP's service free? Do you complain to them that it's not? Would you still like the internet if there were no webpages or IRC servers because everything on it had to be free and nobody could afford to host anything anymore? Didn't think so.

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Re: Paying for irc... haha. #54381 13/10/03 10:09 PM
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you're <deleted by moderator>.

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Re: Paying for irc... haha. #54382 13/10/03 10:14 PM
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The main reason to pay for mIRC is to allow Khaled to improve it without distraction. If Khaled wasn't paid for it, he'd likely spend less (or no) time on it.

Small rambling: I like mIRC's features and programming language. Much less hassle to get results with than C or other compiled languages. Much easier to install and get working than other scripting languages for Windows, except for Python, which is just as easy to install. Then again, Python doesn't have IRC chatting built in.

Re: Paying for irc... haha. #54383 13/10/03 10:33 PM
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Thought I'd join in the crusade against ignorance.

Stan142, warez is in fact on the decrease. Only 2/5 of the biggest networks actually allow it now, and soon enough, one day, they will stop it too. And then all you annoying IRC users who sit aimlessly in channels messaging bots will all be huddled on to a network where the admins care more about the userbase than if people chat or not, so are quite prepared to allow warez.

What's more, you have *NO* idea what Khaled is like in real life, nor do you have any idea about what we're like, so referring to us as "Internet geeks" is a ridiculous statement to make. Throughout your posts you make me wonder whether you know anything about anything at all..

And another point - nobody is forcing you to use mIRC. On the contrary, me, and I'm sure a few others, would be happy to see the back of you. However, I'm sure you're excuse for using mIRC is that there is no other better program for IRCing on Windows than mIRC - that statement in itself is surely grounds for paying for it? Now, is $20.00 that much? He even lets you pay just $10.00 if you're financially constrained. And if you really, really, really don't want to/can't pay for it, all you have to do is put up with a dialogue box which can be closed in 0.001 seconds. But of course, users like you, as usual, resort to breaking the law.

But hey, what can we do about it? You're yet another ignorant and arrogant user who feels they can do what they want, and you bring your bad, childish attitude onto these boards, spurting cuss words at every chance you get, whilst all the time displaying your lack of brain cells, and revealing to us that you lack in certain *cough* other departments too. (You might want to look up Sigmund's Freud's theory of men who make up for something by acting "big" or buying big things. Unless that's a little too geeky for someone as cool and fashionable as you. </sarcasm>)

IRC is Internet Relay Chat - Bear that in mind before opening your gaping gob in future.

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Re: Paying for irc... haha. #54384 13/10/03 10:41 PM
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Re: Paying for irc... haha. #54385 14/10/03 01:45 AM
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dude, U GOT TOLD!

Re: Paying for irc... haha. #54386 14/10/03 02:44 AM
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ok, enough is enough. mIRC is shareware, If you dont want to pay for it, dont use it. If it makes you a happy camper to think you pulled something monumental off by essentially stealing it, go for it. Its your karma.

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Could we please remember that no matter how inane, insulting or offensive the post you are replying to, it doesnt help to lower yourself to that level by trading insults and name calling. Disagree with common courtesy or take it private please.


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Re: Paying for irc... haha. #54387 14/10/03 02:49 AM
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I use to applaud the mIRC developer, because I thought it was free. I admit, if I was making the program I would demand money for it too. But I'm dissapointed... I will probably have to change to trillian or something else that is free because $20 is too much for me.

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Like everyone, i'm sure the author understands that money isnt easy to come by, i imagine thats part of why it isnt crippleware. $20 is a very small price to pay considering, but if you have to, just keep saving until you can afford to pay for it. Ask someone to give you the money for a birthday etc present.


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<Snip>
"Now, is $20.00 that much? He even lets you pay just $10.00 if you're financially constrained."
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Well, I wish I could convince my parents that the internet isn't dangerous, you can pay money safely... And of course, I don't use cracks, I respect the author of mIRC.

Also, (not aimed at you, ParaBrat), nobody's forcing you to use mIRC. smile There are many many other clients out there.


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Re: Paying for irc... haha. #54391 14/10/03 08:22 AM
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$20 is not so bad...... and, all the upgrades you can stand..... As for the those that feel cheated????
I suppose that if mIRC were 'packaged' software at the store...... you would stuff a box under your
sweater, and add another term to your description: shoplifter.....

As for "always $20"........ I just checked..... I paid $15 to Khaled........ in September 96..... So, including
a lot of versions later... That is just about $2/year, and getting cheaper by the day.......

I remember when Khaled said, "no more new versions"..... The uproar from the users was loud, and plain:
"You have the best IRC software! Please do not stop writing new code......!"

It has the best 'Help' of any software I have ever used, (most 'help' is useless..... mIRC Help is quite
'friendly', and seems to always have a useful answer).

Billy G. has shut down his free Chat site..... Why.... It costs money! Billy G..... $46 BILLION...... and
saving mo' money, mo' money, mo' money. If you steal his OS.... you cannot even download the
ever-growing number of 'security patches'....... I bought MS Word 1.0 in '90 for $308.60! Unlike Khaled,
Billy G. wants FULL PRICE for 'new' versions.... Just 4 months later.... I paid MS $10.38... just for an
'upgrade'...... I really HATE giving MS mo' money...... And, what do I get, in return? The most,
[email]f@54^*%$976*%z076Z[/email], bug-laden, hacker-loved, security threat-in-a-box software, available
in the Universe.... And even worse..... Win95 destroyed the idea of pre-Win95 software..... Oh, the
pain of 'Bleeding-edge' technology........

Yet, mIRC is always ready to give up the latest, and greatest.... at no charge!

And, if you do not pay........ You can still use it, with a little bothersome 'reminder', or your cheating
ways.... (keygen pgm). I have seeen many IRC clients in the past decade. None started out well,
and this one continues to be outstanding! (just keep your favorite, past version archived,
in case of 'bugs' in new versions....)

I doubt that anyone in 'mIRC Organization'.... will ever become 'rich' from the sales of mIRC....
I hope they do not stop trying.......... Khaled, a "greedy programmer"?..... I think NOT!

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