Forums mIRC Help Freezing with server splits?

I've noticed that on a previous computer I had(a Pentium 3 667), mIRC froze whenever there was a large server split or a large server re-join.

Unfortunately, this freezing up also caused other server connections to not respond, and therefore by the time I got control back, It'd be too late and I'd have to reconnect to most of the servers.

I'm now on an Athlon 1.9(what is that? 2300+? heh..it's OC'd a little) Ghz-based system and have yet to see this issue. Then again, I haven't seen too many large splits either.

Is there something up with how mIRC handles server quits and rejoins? It only seemed to happen when mIRC has show joins/parts/quits in the channel. It also did not get affected whether I had logging on or off.

Unrelated Incident:

I used to get occasional freezes at random times but I could never quite pinpoint the exact cause. I had searched my script code a thousand times and could not find anything that would cause it to do that. However, I haven't seen that problem in a quite a while so it probably was a script.


I know this ought to have gone in the bug reports section probably but I didn't really consider it a bug, as it's not actually crashing or causing any major issues

you said your previus cpu was a pentium? *cough* there's *cough* the *cough* problem *cough*

But anyways, with large splits, the mirc window just has to output a nick name per common channel, along with the quit message, and quit prefix etc. It could just have been something very memory-intensive, and mirc being single-threaded, must doing things in the order they are arrived at. It can't do one thing, while another is occuring. Such as output the several nicknames, and still be able to reply to a ping query form the other server.

First off, let's not get into such childish bickering over computer hardware, because I have a feeling that my knowledge could easiliy far surpass yours. However, we won't discuss that.

Second off, the reason I had brought it up was because i had never seen this issue before. So obviously it was brought about with the multi-server handling or maybe something else. However it was definitely not a problem in the 5.x series of the software.

I would like to make note that I would prefer intelligent responses to my posts, before anyone else wants to get into a hardware 'war'. This is not the place for it.

Secondly, if it was a specific problem with the software and cpu speeds, I would've most definitely noticed this on my 133, 166, 266, 350, and 450Mhz-based systems throughout the years of my mIRC usage. I had not, so obviously there's something more to this than just "mIRC is single threaded and therefore a slower cpu is going to cause it to have those kinds of issues".

First off, let's not get into such childish bickering over computer hardware, because I have a feeling that my knowledge could easiliy far surpass yours. However, we won't discuss that.

Amendment: First off, let's not get into such childish bickering over computer hardware, because I have a feeling that my knowledge could easiliy far surpass yours. However, we won't discuss that[color:blue] because I fear that your knowledge would prove me wrong[/color].

The Inhell processor you used is obviously slower than the AMD one which you have now. I am assuming that this is perhaps one of the problems. Having said that, for any given speed I would choose AMD over Inhell any day of the week. Show me your superior "knowledge" or feel free to ask for my several reasons why.

Watchdog:

It means no difference to me which x86 cpu you choose to use, after all, they are doing the same calculations, just different methods of it.

You guys are arguing as if mIRC needs a 2Ghz cpu to operate at full speed, which is seriously not the case. Therefore, I am attributing this to some recent possible coding mistake? Issue? Error? I don't know, it was just a thought of mine that I was hoping for an explanation. The key here is that it did not happen before no matter which x86 cpu architecture I had used. This pegs me to believe it has something to do with mIRC 6.x.

It's always worked fine for me and I have seen netsplits where 100's have departed and rejoined repeatedly. The three main machines on my network are AMD powered, just for the record.

I've used multiple versions of cpus from Intel, AMD, and Cyrix in my time of using mIRC. I've just never seen this happen in any previous version of mIRC with any previous system. Going by the logic here, I would've at least seen this with 133-200Mhz CPUs from Intel, AMD, and Cyrix.

This leads me to believe that there's something going on with 6.x and how it handles these specific events that could now be causing an issue with older cpus.

However, it sounds stupid to go by your logic, since going by that would mean you need a high end cpu to run mIRC smoothly and efficiently and that just doesn't seem like the case.

In any event, if it is an issue concerning cpu speed(my god why!?), then maybe a very special case needs to be made within mIRC's code itself that specifically handles these events in a more efficient manner instead of relying on raw cpu power to handle it one at a time.

However, it sounds stupid to go by your logic, since going by that would mean you need a high end cpu to run mIRC smoothly and efficiently and that just doesn't seem like the case.

I never said that. You are just assuming it by taking too much notice of anti-Inhell sentiment. I am a brand-loyal customer, if I like the way something performs, I use it and don't care what others think. I use a Compaq laptop yet I make my own whiteboxes because there isn't a decent commerically made desktop/workstation out there. I drive a Holden because I think Fords suck, My television is 20 years old and still has a perfect picture, yeah it's made in Australia, I eat Arnott's bikkies as a snack and Weetbix for brekky. I wear overalls at work made by a company called Hard Yakka. "Yakka" means hard work in local lingo so the image is good. I use a hammer made by Cyclone instead of one made by Estwing and I eat home made meat pies instead of frozen supermarket crap.

So as you can see, I am kind of particular and discerning about things and I will never change. :tongue:

As for Inhell, for years AMD has been infront with both design and price. Despite the Wintel handshake between Micro$oft and Intel, AMD still works better with Windows and MS apps run faster and more reliably on AMD based platforms. I don't look at benchmarks because they are not 'real-world' simulations, they are just simulations and therefore are not relevant in any way to what hapens to the machine owned by Joe Citizen. At the moment Inhell is trying to play catch-up to AMD with it's hyperthread yarn and because of that they are probably line-ball with AMD at the moment. That could only be because Inhell has woken up and realised that MHz is not the only issue in a processor. AMD has only been operating this way for about 10 years and Inhell has only just responded. It's not hard to see who the real leader is in the market place. Sadly the market share, and of course customer loyalty does not always reflect this. This is probably why the Toyota Corolla can be the world's best selling car and still not be worth buying.

AKO, reading only your original post, without tainting my opinion with the posts between you and Watchdog.

The problem you experienced is primarily a video card issue. People who have basic cheap graphics cards, especially if they have slower CPUs, usually experience this problem when there is a continuous flood of text being written to a window.

This is the basic premis of most JOIN, NICK, and TOPIC flood tactics, as well as the more sophisticated Bold/Underline text floods which use significantly more video resources and thus amplify the effect. This is also not isolated to mIRC, but common among other IRC clients aswell.

Again, I don't think it has so much to do with CPU power, all though a fast CPU would help... but the video card is responsible for the painting of each line on the screen. (and apparently even when it's not presently visible on the screen)

- Raccoon

PS. If you wish for me to demonstrate this, I'm on <a href="irc://EFNet/raccoon" target="_blank">irc://EFNet/raccoon</a>

weird Raccoon....that could explain it, however...but that's rather strange. Though it sounds a bit more believable than these guys. However, it's a Geforce 4 Ti4200. My GF2(same manufacturer) didn't exhibit this behavior.

But I know what u're talking about, since I remember years ago I had an issue with the bios of my motherboard and all PCI slots were to end up being disabled. I couldn't figure out a way to re-enable them for months, and there was a definite speed difference in the text of mIRC between the ISA and the PCI video cards.

Maybe there's a 2D setting I can enable somewhere

Try lowering the "hardware acceleration" slider, it's somewhere in control panel under display settings, I forget exactly where, probably under the advanced section, try lowering it by one notch and see if that helps at all.

I guess I should've expected the kinds of posts that these people put up. You can't go anywhere without them now.

Even with any video driver issues, it's strange to see that a video card has so much trouble rendering text at a fast rate