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I would like to have support for ANSI block characters in MIRC chat rooms (for popup graphics). Doesn't the Fixedsys font support these characters? I love making ANSI, but ASCII art is so restrictive I don't even bother. Characters 176-178, 219-223, 254 and 249 would be nice. Even if you had a default modified font to support these characters in MIRC it would be so nice. While you're at it, the 179-218 characters would be great too.

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fixedsys does not support extended\high ASCII characters. try using a font like terminal or ibmpc.

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Yes, but... what about everyone else? Noone else will see my characters. That's the point I was trying to make. I want all to see my characters or it's moot. Also, I tried the extended ASCII-friendly fonts... MIRC itself doesn't allow those extended characters to display.

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... Your friends can't see the characters, which is why mIRC needs to use the UTF-8 decoding, and NOT ASCII, as default! This is what I'm saying. UTF-8 even has support for RUNES.

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i agree.. extended ascii would be cool and is supported in some other irc clients.

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Anyway, afaik these characters exist in UTF-8, and can be referenced by their unique UTF-8 code, thus they will not be seen as other characters by people using other fonts.

There are some freeware libs over at

http://oss.software.ibm.com/icu/index.html

that would possibly enable mIRC to use UTF-8, and of course I'm trying to get Khaled M.-Bey to implement it.

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Please keep at it. I'm an old BBS sysop and would love to use real ANSI in my popups and things. It's just not the same with the way it is now.

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The thing is, that under windows most of the fonts are Windows based, not DOS ANSI (which has the classic box-drawing symbols used often in BBS days). Under windows most of the fonts default to characters based on the windows locale,
ie:
176-178 = degree symbol, plus-minus, squared
degree, plusminus, I
-, A, I
and 219-223 are
U", U',Y', Thron, and Sharp S on most regions
but for people outside of US-English it does alter.

and even with MS-DOS ANSI character sets, all the characters don7t even match up between US DOs, and Western European DOS (full box, lower box, |, I` upper box)

Not much you can do about fonts showing the same characters for character codes 128-255 for everyone unless you restrict people from changing fonts away from a single standard. (or implement Unicode proper, which isn't easily done)

And if I am not mistaken, the current ANSI standard (and it is only valid in the US) does not include box drawing anymore for characters in the 178-223 range, but the range of accented letters which is now Latin-1 (ISO-8859-1), and windows uses ISO-8859-2 thru -11 for various localised versions of Windows

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I vote for Unicode support!
ChatZilla's not exactly the most user friendly piece of software smile
Unicode would rock for FileServes with directories in other languages than the standard ASCII would support... smile


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