Hmmm im a pirate, i download stuff all the time, but gotta warn you bootmaster, get a legal copy of norton. Trust me on this one, i wont ever download norton again. I did a few years ago and it was cracked and kept telling me that there were no virus's on my computer, but i was going to college for computer support and knew what was happening. I bought Norton, and it found about 60 or so virus's on my system. And after almost 10 years of using Mirc, i have finally paid for it. laugh