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MD5/SHA hash of installer on downloads page #90061 11/07/04 04:37 PM
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I think the subject says it all.

For those who don't get the point it's so that people can compare the MD5/SHA hash of their downloaded file with the one displayed on the site and see if they match - if they don't then the file is either corrupted or has been intentionally edited in some way.


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Re: MD5/SHA hash of installer on downloads page #90062 11/07/04 06:19 PM
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* KingTomato agrees with starbucks_mafia


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Re: MD5/SHA hash of installer on downloads page #90063 12/07/04 03:26 PM
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Thirded smile Great idea.

Re: MD5/SHA hash of installer on downloads page #90064 12/07/04 03:58 PM
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Not sure what your implying, a function in mIRC that checks this or on the actual downloads page of the mIRC website..

Although both might have some credit i wouldnt see the point.

(sorry if you dont mean this one but..)
A function in mIRC that does this would be completely useless since it would serve no purpose and you would have nothing to compair the md5/sha to.

Also, having md5/sha on the mirc downloads page would also be useless since someone can download it from an external website that isnt required to put an 'md5/sha' string there.

Also one on the mirc site would be useless since you KNOW its the real thing, also if the md5s dont match when you complete the download mIRC is "small" enough to redownload it either from the same mirror or another one and its more than likely due to some download corrupt.

And finally, it would be completely useless to newbies since they more than likely dont know what md5/sha is, and its uses, and realistically people that know what they are, should know better.

Eamonn.

Re: MD5/SHA hash of installer on downloads page #90065 12/07/04 04:10 PM
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Not sure what your implying, a function in mIRC that checks this or on the actual downloads page of the mIRC website..

- I'm talking about it being displayed on the Downloads page.


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Also, having md5/sha on the mirc downloads page would also be useless since someone can download it from an external website that isnt required to put an 'md5/sha' string there.

- Yes they could download it from another site, in which case they'd be taking matters into their own hands. If people want to be stupid there's nothing that anyone here can do about it.


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Also one on the mirc site would be useless since you KNOW its the real thing

- You can't be absolutely sure it's the real thing. The actual downloads are from mirrors which aren't under mIRC Co. Ltd.'s direct control. It is possible for edited versions to be placed on the mirror sites, either as a malicious act by the mirror owner (unlikely but not impossible) or as a result of the mirror being hacked.


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also if the md5s dont match when you complete the download mIRC is "small" enough to redownload it either from the same mirror or another one and its more than likely due to some download corrupt.

- Not sure what you're getting at here. How would someone know the hashes didn't match unless they knew what the hash should be? Which is what I'm suggesting people should be told.


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And finally, it would be completely useless to newbies since they more than likely dont know what md5/sha is, and its uses

- Yeah it's not helpful to newbies, but it's helpful to everyone else.


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and realistically people that know what they are, should know better.

- Know better than what?


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Re: MD5/SHA hash of installer on downloads page #90066 12/07/04 04:36 PM
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to be honest, its a nice idea, and it'd harm no-one if it was on the downloads page

i suppose you make a valid point about the mirrors, but then, the mirrors would have to somehow display the md5 otherwise the user would have to note it down, download the file, actually read the md5, and then check it againest the values.

Eamonn.

Re: MD5/SHA hash of installer on downloads page #90067 12/07/04 07:11 PM
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Yes, good suggestion.. Also would be nice if anyone can write some extension for the Mozilla/Firefox &for most prefered download managers that show the md5 hash after downloading..

Also would be nice if someone create a new protocol for auto verifying the file name with a md5 databases.. And that protocol will be integrated in all popular program what can download files from internet wink

Maybe that can save some 100,000 of ppl and their data wink


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