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If anyone nos how i can get my irc back it would be great casue my mom changed my password i think and i cant get on and it sucks. So someone please email me.

You shouldn't share your passwords with anyone, I don't - Including my 'mom'.

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That;s all fine and dandy, but what if the parent did it for a reasoin? What if they were failing in school, or spent too much time on the computer? Maybe they were downloading illegal fils that the parents objected to. For the mst part, the parent has to have a reason other than "they are just bing mean". Personally, I'd have let them on thier own to figure it out, not help bypass their parent's athourity.

I'm not going to get in an argument (or atleast TRY not to) however, words cannot describe the anger that boils up inside me when people start going on about respecting their parents and 'parents authority' - I couldn't care less, adults/parents are no more higher beings than anyone else.

I only see policies on these boards which refer to work/school/college/university policies, as they are obviously clearly defined reasons that are there specifically to block the use of IRC. We do not know the exact reasons behind this except for a bunch of 'What if's' - and I do not intend on prying into people's private lives. Personally, I wouldn't let them figure it out on their own.

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Hypothetically speaking - if BoOoTzZz is 12 and wants to download porn and his parents don't want him to - what would you then do?

"I only see policies on these boards which refer to work/school/college/university policies, as they are obviously clearly defined reasons that are there specifically to block the use of IRC. We do not know the exact reasons behind this except for a bunch of 'What if's' - and I do not intend on prying into people's private lives."

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It's just seeking information, what is is actually used for, and why is really no concern of anyone other than the indivisual seeking this information.
Also, that link gives only basic information on that registry value. Remember BE CAREFULL when messing with the registry, but here are more details on the registry value:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\mIRC\LockOptions\(Default)

The actual data in this value consists of 2 numbers separated by a coma. The first number is an encryped password. If you forget your password, it can be reset by changing this value to 0 (zero).
The Second number controls exactly what is locked. This value can be calculated by adding the numbers corrisponding to the options listed below. Example: If the option set are Ask for Password on startup, Disable Get, and Hide tray menu window list when locked, you would calculate 256+8+1=265 so in this case the second value
would be 265.

1 = Ask for Password on start up
2 = Limit Channels
4 = Disable Send
8 = Disable Get
16 = Disable Fserve
32 = Disable Private Chats
64 = Disable /run command
128 = Disable /dll command
256 = Hide tray menu window list when locked

If the Limit Channels option is sellected, the channels you are
limmited to can be found in the registry value:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\mIRC\Channels\(Default)
This is a string value - each channel is separater by a coma.

General Reply:
I can see both sides of this issue, and it did give me pause when i saw the question and answer. On the one hand, as Mentality said, it isnt up to us to pry or try to second guess or assume motives/reasons in some cases. Certainly its clear cut when someone says they want to evade the policies of an employer/school/network. Helping those ppl could easily lead to them being fired or flunking out of school.

On the other side, KT and Locutus brought up good points. Like it or not, a parent has the right to exercise authority in what they feel is best for their children. Now im not saying a parent is always right, so lets not go in that direction please.

We dont know the age of the original poster or the circumstances around their problem, nor is that any of our business. Like Mentality, i dont think its our place to pry into those. So lets look at the possibilities. Its possible the parent is being unfair and limiting puter usage for no reason. Lets be honest, its far more likely the poster did something to warrant it, especially since it appears its IRC use specifically being limited. Lots of possibilities there, many of which could harm the poster . Much as i hate to say it, too many of those whatifs are NOT good things and are far too likely to be ignored.

In my mind it boils down to what are the chances that by helping this user get back online we could be putting them in harms way. The issue isnt whether that harm is flunking out of school or viewing porn or illegal downloading or learning to evade punishment or disrespecting their parents or being led down the garden path by some pervert. Maybe they are just being punished for flushing their little sister's frog down the drain. But, if there is any chance that by answering a user's question we could be putting them in harms way, regardless of their age or the circumstances, i think we have a moral obligation to err on the side of caution. All things considered, i'd have to say a parent has the same right as a school/employer/channel/network to have their rules respected by us whether we agree with them or not.

My reply to that poster would have been: Look, its none of my business why your mom did that, but i think the best thing for you to do is to ask her to talk to you about why she did it and explain your side. If you messed up and are paying the price for it, we've all been there. I wouldnt help you evade a ban in a channel, or help you skip school and i dont think it would be right to help you sneak behind your mom's back. I think when you arent so angry you will see you'd just get yourself in more trouble.

The thing is, realistically - it doesn't really matter if you answer the question here or not (like I pointed out, it's only information anyway, what is done with that information and why is totally the responsibility of the individual using said information).
If that question were not answered here, I'm sure there are pleanty of other places on the web to get it.
Not to mention that "Locking" one program is not realistically going to prevent use of IRC. There are plenty of other IRC clients out there that can be downloaded, and installed at no charge - either as evaluation, or out-right freeware. Not to mention the fact that there are plenty of web sites that offer IRC connections with a java script running on the server side, leaving no control at all to what can and can not be accessed on the client side.
In short, you stop nothing, only force use of other means to either get the info being sought out, or avoid the need to use a specific program. - And there can NEVER as far as I am concerned, be anything wrong with having the information to do anything - it's how that information is used that determins if this use is ligit or not - and that is the responsibility of the user of this information, NOT that of those that provide the information.

Mentality:

Without this getting too far into an argument, can I just refute your comment about not knowing the circumstances? Hwo is it that when no information is preset, the side of disreguarding authority is the "correct" side? If you don't know the circumstanses, shouldn't you atleast give the parent the benefit of the doubt? I understand you seem to have little or no respect for your parents, and that may be from some occurance in your life that I'm not getting into, but this isn't always the case.

When I was younger my parents would limit me from things, or ground me to my room. For stress of point i'll overexagerate, but say I was locked in my room. now, I go on my computer in my room on the internet and ask someone online how to pick a lock. Is it thier responsibility to unlock the door, and evade my parents authority? They again don't know the whole reason either, yet they should be completly willing to tell me how to get out? Sorry, I don't agree.

Red_barchetta:

As far as your theory on "Its up to them to use the information" is complete nonsense. Isn't it blatenly obvious what they are going to do with the information, or are you just being ignorant to the facts? With that mindset, why not go into a jail, and show all the inmates, that get out in 6 months, how to use a revolver intimatly? Then when they get out, it's up them them how they use the information, isn't it?

Well, I'm not about to start a big argument over it, but that is the way I feel about it (And yes, even in the example you gave) - the reason is, reguardless of what anyone tells, or dose not tell someone else - each indivisual must altimately make up their own mind what they are going to do in a given situation - therefore that persons responsibility.
If you were to blame it on the deliver of the information, than in effect you are saing that anyone that writes a book on locksmithing describing exactly how all the tumblers work, exc. is responsible for people picking locks for the perpose of theft. Or that the author of a Auto repair book spealizing in the electrical systems is responsible for those that use that information to hot-wire cars that do not belong to them, and without the owners knowlage...
If this were the case, then basically everybody should keep any and all knowlage they have compleately to themselves, after-all - all most anything could be mis-used. A simple book on Computer Programming COULD lead to the developement of a virus/trojan/worm.......

While the ultimate use of any information is the responsibility of the user of it, i think as helpers we have a moral obligation to act responsibily regarding the info we give out. Just because you could find how to hack/poison/shoot/rob/crash someone elsewhere doesnt say to me "oh what the heck, you can find it out anyway, so i'll just be your source and not be at all worried about what happens to you or anyone else". To me, that goes against the whole concept of what we want to accomplish here. It would be a sad reflection on these forums and by extension mIRC itself.

To oversimplify your logic, to me there is a vast difference between someone asking hey, where can i find a book on guns and asking hey, where can i find a book on guns so i can go rob the corner store

Our policy is to not help with evasion of bans, company rules etc. and i think a parent has as much right to our respect of their policies as any employer or school, regardless of how right or wrong any of them may be in their reasoning. imo the only diff here is that the potential risk to the user is much higher than getting fired.

No one has brought up the point that this person could be an adult who lives with their mother? (a la Seymore Burns) Providing the information is not wrong, in any instance. It is up to the person that uses the information to decide whether they are doing the right thing or not. The purpose of the internet is the distribution of information. If people start arbitrarilly censoring, it defeats the purpose.

I still come back to my original point. If a parent disallows their child to access a potentially hazardous part of the internet, that's their right. Moreso: the parents are required to act on behalf of their children and protect their best interest. I for one am not gonna go against the wishes of the parent. Parent and child have to work it out on their own. It's not our place to interfere. Be fun if I forbid my child to do something and then half the world says "don't listen to your dad, what does he know, this is what you do". If that's not undermining a parent's position as parent I don't know what is.

Seymore Burns? You mean Seymour Skinner?

Yes, one purpose of the internet is distribution of information. However, each site, including forums like this one and #mIRC help channels, has the right to determine their own policies. For example, choosing to not help someone do something illegal or that could cause harm to them or others is our right. Thats choice, not censorship.

Sorry to intrude in on the conversation.

I would have to agree with LocutusofBorg!

We don't know the circumstances behind the Q and further, Helping to by-pass someone else's password is no different then helping them locate the combination to the neighbors safe! yes, there are circumstances where the password need to be by-passed but, from what I have read, this isn't one of them.

Frankly, I give the Mom Kudos for known how to operate mIRC

-wayne