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What is generally effective?
1.) Information gathering. If you own the machines under attack, then you set up a program such snort which will give you information about where the attacks are coming from. You should then contact the individual owners/operators of those machines to alert them of the fact that they have been compromised. You might think this is a futile task, but doing this I've gotten a few hundred machines secured. If what you mean here is contact the owners of the machines that are attacking the website then there is proof that he person attacking the website has over 55K compromised hosts, I don't think we're going to go through all of them.
You won't like it when I get angry.
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Fjord artisan
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1.) Don't give in to their demands Why are they attacking the website? To close it down. If we do close it down then that will just send a message to them that they can attack any site they want until they get caught, which seems like never. I know the people who are attacking the websites and through blackmails and urging their friends to try and convince them to stop it seems to be working so far. There is just this one attacker (hopefully) left to contend with.
You won't like it when I get angry.
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Hoopy frood
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yes so talk,threaten, whatever, but do not resort to their level and dos them back, as codemastr said that will just make things a lot worse.
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Hoopy frood
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i think we all agree that these attackers are pathetic, so do you honestly want to copy them and dos them back?
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Self-satisified door
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I don't want anyone fighting back with dos attacks for ms.org. I don't want this resolved in that way. We would be no better than them. Trust me, with the money I've lost, nobody wants them to stop more than me, but attacking back isn't the answer.
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Ameglian cow
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Well maybe they got angry at something on the forum or about some script rejection and before thinking started to flood em?
But what i meant was, maybe now that its gone they cant find something that was in that forum or some other snippet they might need or something, and therefore start to miss the site
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Hoopy frood
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fubar still isnt 100% its gone yet, an they are still flooding so i think they would of thought by now if they was gunna miss it or not
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Vogon poet
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As codemastr said in one of the threads I think, the best way would be to point the dns of mircscripts.org to something unaccessible. That way, they will stop. Play hide and seek for a while with them and soon they will be tired of it.
As for threatening, maybe you can threaten to call the FBI or something. It would be helpful if their IP could be traced down and the attacker's ISP found.
And to zack, if we want to stop them, don't DoS them too. They are just little kiddies, if we DoS them, they might think its fun and they will even cause more harm to mircscripts.org.
It seems that the attacks are not as much as before already. I can access mircscripts.org, although thrice as slow as before. I hope fubar will not give up on this website, as it is an essential source for mIRC Scripters.
Be harsh to them, don't be lenient. By all means legal, of course. If it doesn't stop them, track them down.
So sad that these damn kiddies want to stop such a great website...
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Hoopy frood
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If it were me, I would do everything within my power (legally) to make an example of these attackers. Even if it were my best friend, to make it known that DoS'ing websites or anything else will not be tolerated. Any legal action taken should be a wake up call to these kiddies. Not to mention Having the NSA or the FBI knockin on their doors would scare the living hell out of them...Course thats just my opinion and my bastardly way of thinking 
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Hoopy frood
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the site seems to be as fast as ever now, no problems loading or anything, maybe the pathetic ***** attackers read these posts, or just decided to stop :tongue:
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Hoopy frood
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I wouldn't jump to that assumption as of yet. They could be taking a break from these attacks or yes you could be right they read these posts and realized that somewhere legal action was brought up...who knows though but I would wait a bit before jumping to the conclusion that the attacks have ended...
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Hoopy frood
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hmm i supposed, i think you need to tell tranztella that as well :tongue: even though its a bit late coz hes already started a new post about it being back open =\
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Hoopy frood
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No need to post the same thing in a different thread. I'm sure he will catch what I said here. As will everyone else. It just adds to confusion. (something that we try to tell new users to the board about multiple posts). It would be senseless to post it now anyways...
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