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#24799 18/05/03 05:14 AM
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Hey all,

I was chatting earlier this evening, and also was considering the post a user has made about altering the mirc version reply.

As we all know, or should know, mirc has a default version reply that cannot be altered or stopped from being viwed (atleast legally). Now, I was wondering if rather than having the default version reply the first responce on a request, make it the last. This would maintain the legality of mirc, and still advertise which client is being used, while being able to post a custom version first.

I realize with anything there are pros and cons, but I'd like to hear how others would feel about this, as well as the opinion of someone who poses a larger influence on the subject (the man himself).

Anyways, any input would be appreciated.


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#24800 18/05/03 05:16 AM
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I'm not necessarily opposed to it, but I'm not quite sure I see why this would be better than the current way.

#24801 18/05/03 06:46 PM
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I think it's a matter of privacy and security... no different than changing the User-Agent string for your web browser, or the login prompt for telnet if you run the service. Why make it easy for someone to figure out what exploits you might be susceptible to.

I can appreciate Khaled wanting to receive credit for his work though... perhaps the ability to change the default version reply could be made available on registered clients?

Then again, the version reply is also a tool IRC admins sometimes need to use when dealing with network issues.

#24802 19/05/03 11:20 PM
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Version reply also comes in handy in help channels, since knowing which version (client/OS) is being used can effect the answer to a question. No surprise, there are those who dont know what they are using, which means you have to first ask what version, then explain how to find it at a time when the user may already be frustrated and confused...faster and simpler to just do a version on them.

Beyond that, Khaled wrote it, he has the right to any version reply he deems fit.


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#24803 21/05/03 02:40 AM
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Despite the fact that I know how to hack it out (though I never do :tongue:) I have no problem with leaving the version reply alone. mIRC isn't mine so I respect the author's wishes. I would like to be able to silence the "hit" that the status window gets when a version check is done though.

#24804 21/05/03 02:46 AM
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I agree, making the version request/reply 'silent' woiuld be very nice. smile

#24805 21/05/03 04:55 AM
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I happen to like version.. I use it a lot (to help others), and I don't see how it opens up anybody's computer to much greater of a security risk..

Since there's like 3 OS's out there, and mIRC can run on wine.. How is this really doing much of anything to help a hacker hack you if he knows that you're using mIRC and the version of mIRC?


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#24806 21/05/03 11:19 AM
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Where did she mention hacking or security?

We are talking about "[VERSION]" echoing to the Status (or active window depending on settings) when someone does a version check on you.

#24807 21/05/03 10:08 PM
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I do think the idee of putting the original version reply last is a good option... though I don't know if it's possible due to the way mIRC parses data... think the core programming comes before scripts ;-]

and the version reply is edited out easely...

I have to admin I did it, though the new version reply still contains credit to khaled only with a new layout to fit the theme...


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