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In first, with this : //var %t = GA is Ga ,%b = $len(%t) ,%a 1 | while (%a <= %b) { var -s %r = $+(%r,$mid(%t,%a,1)) | inc %a }
  all the spaces of %t will be removed in %r, why ? is it a bug ?
  Other thing, : why can't we set a %var ( with /var ) if the var name doesn't begin with a % like : //Var -s $+(%,a,b) 1 is it a bug too ? 
 
  
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The stripping of multiple spaces is not a bug, but intentional.  There have been many posts regarding multiple spaces.  mIRC also does not allow leading or following spaces.  There are ways around this, most notably, using a 3rd party dll called spaces.dll mIRC recognizes two characters for variable names, depending on the type of variable that you're wanting/needing to work with. The most common one is the local/global variable (local variables are set using /var, global variables are set using /set).  If the % character isn't present, then mIRC doesn't know that it's a variable. I find it interesting that I can use   and it works properly, yet your example does not. Note: If, for some reason, you must use a local variable, you can set it using the /set command and the -l switch.  This method does work as a workaround for the second bug you posted.  
 
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1. Your problem is "var -s %r = $+(%r,$mid(%t,%a,1))", when it reaches a space in the string, $mid will evalutate to a space and your command will become "var -s %r = $+(%r, )".  Obviously you cant $+ a space...
  2. Not sure why "var -s $+(%,a,b) 1" does not work, as it works fine when using set -s (note: square braces around it dont help) 
 
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1. Your problem is "var -s %r = $+(%r,$mid(%t,%a,1))", when it reaches a space in the string, $mid will evalutate to a space and your command will become "var -s %r = $+(%r, )". Obviously you cant $+ a space... That's not it at all, try "var -s %r = $+(%r,$mid(%t,%a,1),anythinghere)" for example, you'll find it works if $mid() returns a space. /var and /set can handle any number of consecutive or leading spaces; there only is a problem with a  single trailing space. All mirc identifiers (including custom ones, if one uses the undocumented but apparently quite stable /returnex command) can also handle consecutive/leading/trailing spaces fine.  Only /commands (other than /var and /set) strip leading/trailing spaces and reduce consecutive spaces to a single one. The interested reader can find lots more about the whole spaces issue in this comprehensive  mIRC Internals Wiki article. Examples: //var %a = $str($chr(32),3) $+ a | echo -a $len(%a) echoes "4". 3 consecutive leading spaces, followed by "a", were successfully stored in %a. //var %a = $str($chr(32),3) | echo -a $len(%a) echoes "3". 3 consecutive spaces where successfully stored in %a. Since nothing else follows, those are also  trailing spaces. //var %a = a $+ $str($chr(32),3) | echo -a $len(%a) echoes "4". Similar to above. //var %a = a $+ $str($chr(32), 1) | echo -a $len(%a) echoes "1". The space was lost in this case, because it was the last character  and the character before that was  not a space.  
 
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Perhapse my wording was not specific enough, you cant $+ LITERAL spaces. Using $str and $chr is a workaround, the point was that the problem with the OP's code is that $mid evaluates to a literal space, which is infact why it is not functioning as they expected.
  I am well aware of the spaces issue, and that no single trailing space (in any form) can be used in that way.  Although i am sure the OP will appreciate your explanation since i failed to do so myself.
  To OP: you would need to check for this case, eg.. //var %t = GA is Ga, %b = $len(%t), %a 1 | while (%a <= %b) { if ( $mid(%t,%a,1) == $chr(32) ) { var -s %r = $+(%r,$mid(%t,%a,2)) | inc %a 2 } | else { var -s %r = $+(%r,$mid(%t,%a,1)) | inc %a } } 
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the point was that the problem with the OP's code is that $mid evaluates to a literal space, which is infact why it is not functioning as they expected. If that is the case, then why does the following code work just fine? //var %t = GA is Ga ,%b = $len(%t) ,%a 1 | while (%b >= %a) { var -s %r = $+($mid(%t,%b,1),%r) | dec %b }  
 
  
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Thanks for explanation but i supposed it was something like that (and so it was not a bug).I don't need any workaround, it was just exemple to show the problem.
  But for the second problem, i know i can use set -l but the bug is here for me : we can't use /Var $+(%,a,b) 1 whereas we can use /set -l $+(%,a,b) 1 
 
  
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I'm going to call the 2nd one a bug because no matter what I tried, I couldn't get it to work. 
 
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Sigh... concidering the OP's post, and the subsequent replies, i think it was established that we were talking about trailing spaces not leading spaces.  I was replying to, and inreference of, the OP's specific example. 
 
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Hmm, I thought you were talking about "literal" vs "non-literal" spaces, and the ability to concatenate those, in general (instead of in the very specific /var single-trailing-space-bug context). If that's not what you meant, then I have nothing to say.    
 
  
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Just find another strange thing with /var :
  //var % 1 | echo -a %a \ $var(%).value
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  //set % 56 | var % 1  | echo 4 -a $var(%).value | unset % | echo 6 -a $var(%).value
  this would echos : 2 1
  and i don't know why .
  
 
  
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Try using the correct format for a variable name, specifically something along the lines of %a not %
  
 
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I dont get why some things can't be /var'd but can be /set'd
 
  I think i had the problem with using things like $left & $right 
 
  
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The set command creates a global variable.  The var command creates a local variable.  Local variables can also be created using the -l switch in the set command. Local variables only stay for a period of time -- usually until the script ends -- however, I have come across times when a local variable has been unset before the script ended, especially when it's been a big script (ie: 25k+)
  Global variables don't get unset until you unset them (or reset them).
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Just find another strange thing with /var :
  //var % 1 | echo -a %a \ $var(%).value
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  //set % 56 | var % 1  | echo 4 -a $var(%).value | unset % | echo 6 -a $var(%).value
  this would echos : 2 1
  and i don't know why .   Firstly, you should use the correct $var usage ( $var(%var,N).value): //set % set | var % var  | echo 4 -a $var(%,1).value | unset % | echo 6 -a $var(%,1).value This will echo... ...and it shouldn't. It should be "var" and "set". Although /var is lacking the '=' sign in your code, I've found the issue isn't due to that, but rather to a variable name weirdness, like RusselB suggested. Anything other than '%' will work: //set %% set | var %% var  | echo 4 -a $var(%%,1).value | unset %% | echo 6 -a $var(%%,1).value Nevertheless, you should include the '=' sign in your /var commands, as the practice of not doing it has been proven unsafe by many times in these forums.  
 
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Why do you thing i post here, because i'd rather that /Var or /set % 1 will return an error since we don't specify a valid entry for the variable name
  For the "=" of /var % 1 and the format of $var, watch this :
  //var % = 1 | echo 4 -a $var(%,1).value
  As i said, i think /Var or /set with '%' should return an error 
 
  
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OK...In that case I agree completely, since using % without anything else would be an incorrect variable name.  I'm not sure if I missed that point earlier, or if I just misunderstood what you were saying.
  
 
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But i would have liked some explanation about the result of $var because /var % 1 | echo -a $var(%) $var(%).value will echos 1 1 and and //set -u1 % 1 | //var % 1 | echo -a $var(%) $var(%).value echos 2 2
  for the "=" and $var, in fact i made a mistake, i forgot some exemple :
  //var % = 1 | echo 4 -a $var(%,1).value > = 1 //var % = 1 | echo 4 -a $var(%).value > 1 //set -su1 % 2 | var -s % = 2 | echo -a $var(%) $var(%).value > 2 2 //var -s % = 2 | echo -a $var(%) $var(%).value > 1 1
  we can see % is egual to = 2
 
 
 
 
  
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