Cos people complain about my script, then when i ask what they have problem with, after a while i was thinking "hmm, sounds like the timers dosent work as they should", then when i have asked they halted ALL timers /timers off, when i asked why they tell me "I did that when i halted a timer in org mirc", and this makes everything stop work as it should, and without the timers i cant check if the timers running, /timers off halt all active timers, then i cant have somethin that check if a serten timer are off or on, if (!$timer(timer)) { do stuff } ..