Amazed and saddened? Why? Knowing that mIRC is hackable does not mean we do it. Knowing that my car can be driven at 250km/h doesn't mean I do it either. Knowledge and (where applicable) skill is power and this world is dog-eat-dog. I've used IRC for around 5 years. It's a bit hard to do that and not come across all aspects of the chat programme that is by far the most popular of all.