Well when you don't reference anything I said, how am I to know what post you are replying to? And anyway I have no idea who this "boss" you speak of is, and therefore I'll assume he exists in your mind only. If Microsoft (and they are the ones who matter) felt that mIRC on MSN was not harmful, then they'd allow mIRC. You say it's not harmful, I say yes it is. mIRC scripts are MUCH more intensive on a server than an MSN client. You can make a timer that does a /who every 5 seconds, that causes harm (lag and bandwidth usage) for example. Just because YOU don't see something being harmful doesn't mean you're right.