I actually find VB easier to code than mIRC however codemastr tends to throw all versions of VB together, forgetting that on Windows 2003 VB.NET will run about 40 times faster than VB6. Anyway, I do agree with him on one point and I have said it dozens of times before, mIRC's scripting language was made for one purpose and one purpose only - a support langauge for the mIRC chat programme. It does that job very well simply because that is what it is intended for. There are scripting languages that mIRC doesn't support that are faster of course but people generally prefer to use mIRC the way it is - I don't see masses of chatters changing to X Chat, BitchX, Klient, etc just because languages lile C, Perl and TCL might be faster - quite the opposite, they would have to be dragged, kicking and screaming to do it. It's a case of what works best in a given area and the computer world already has dozens of languages at it's disposal for non-mIRC use.