hixxy said nothing to detract from your explanation of file handling, you managed to do that all on your own by swaggering into the thread with your baseless assumptions. have you considered that mIRC is not a low level language and that it can often be rather futile to try and map a block of mIRC script onto a set of low level operations? this is why we conduct tests such as benchmarking in addition to merely conceptualizing since the latter method of analysis can fall short unexpectedly. hixxy's tests have shown his method to perform faster in mIRC in the general case. if you don't believe him then by all means try to disprove his claim, but don't go throwing around nonsense claims such as 'Most users who have post counts into the 1000s make it impossible for me to explain file handling'.