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Hoopy frood
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Hoopy frood
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you can run an ircx server off your own pc, but most people prefer ircd.
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Hoopy frood
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Hoopy frood
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Creating an actual server is not related to the mIRC program itself. mIRC is a program (IRC client in this case) that connects to an IRC server. An IRCd (Internet Relay Chat daemon) as pointed out above is more popular than most other software to setup a server. It is basically what the server is. There are a number of IRCd's, most of which will not work on Windows. Unreal IRCd is an exception. There are wIRCds which work on Windows, but they are often regarded as not as good as IRCds. You may want to run a Forum Search for "ircd", as this has been asked before. Make sure you expand to 'All Forums' and 'All Posts' for best results. You might want to read this page for more links & information. Have fun! Regards,
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jarlan
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Does this process cost any money?
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Fjord artisan
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yes... in that you need to have the hardware, and the constant link to the net to run the server.. but if you have these already, and can spare the bandwidth involve, there should be no additional costs (except for your time).
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Hoopy frood
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Hoopy frood
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As HorseC said, if you have what you need then you are not going to have to pay a penny - IRCds themselves are usually free (or at least I've never seen one that you have to pay for).
It would also depend on your situation and what you intend to do with the server. If you intended to link it to a big network (i.e. DALnet, Undernet, EFnet etc) then you would probably have to spend thousands of pounds/dollars/whatever to have it setup, find a suitable sponsor to host it etc. You would also not be able to run it on a home computer. However, if you're just looking for a personal server to have some friends on or whatever, then it may not be so expensive.
Getting a hosted server would cost money, and it would also depend on a certain number of factors - For example, the maximum amount of users you'd like to have connected to the server, the speed of the machine and connection the server is hosted on etc...
Happy chattin'!
Regards,
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hi guys, just thought i'd pop in and put a opinion on this subject if ya'll don't mind. jarlan, like these guys said, the most preferred irc server app is ircd. You can find these on a couple of linux sites such as sourgeforge and freshmeat and even shadowrealm... just do a google search on the term "ircd" and that should return plenty of links for you to look at so you can decide if you really want to run one. I can tell you this, it requires it's own linux based computer(preferably dedicated to the server) and alot of time and patience  Like has been mentioned there are other windows versions out there such as wircd and bircd and theres no telling how many others have popped up recently, but like these guys have said the preferred version is ircd which is run in a linux environment. There are several versions out and from what i have seen Ultimate and Unreal are probably the most popular ones now a days. You will also need another program to run in conjunction with ircd as a services server, there are two that come to mind here, anope and epona. These are basically the same program, anope actually was derrived after epona but none the less either one are required if you want to run a complete server like most do so you can control the status and user levels ect on the server. just go to those sites i mentioned and do some reading, they have forums as well for help if you need it. oh and i almost forgot, it won't cost you a thing as has already been said if you already havet the hardware to run it on. and one other thing to consider is to check your isp's terms of service agreement and see if they have any stipulations on running servers on your connection. If you are going to run just a small server most likly they won't say anything but if you plan on going global or something then i'd chk with them first as they might get po'd and cut u off or something. More than likly they will just charge you for doing it. Anyway i wouldn't really worry about that just yet.... Just concentrate on getting it going then you can decide on the latter. I've been running one for a while now and so far nothing has been said to me if that makes ya feel any better about doing it hehe.  Have fun  Laterz,
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jarlan
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Ok I went ahead and tried this. 20 minutes after I started it my computer crashed and now I cant even use it at all. I suggest you tell people things that wont [censored] up their computer. I am sueing mIRC and the Unreadl IRCd programs. No where in ANY disclaimer does it say they are not responsible for problems to your computer. I have had my attorny read this over a few times and he is going to file it tomorrow. I sure hope the mIRC and UnrealIRCd company has $10,000 each, because thats what I am going for. On a personal note: [censored] mIRC AND UNREALIRCD [censored] YOU AND YOUR FAMILY [censored]
Last edited by Karen; 26/03/04 01:07 PM.
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Vogon poet
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Think you should go and have a good read of the eula that you agreed to when you downloaded the unreal ircd, as well at look at the licence agreement you accepted to install mirc.
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since it's OBVIOUS you didn't read anything when you downloaded UnrealIRCD, (you know, the part right above the "I ACCEPT" button you clicked to enable the download), I suggest you go back to the download page and do so before sticking your foot any farther into your mouth.
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Swoop
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well jarlan, you obviously didn't take the time to THOROUGHLY read the directions, how-to's and install documents.
and by chance you actually did??? you can't hold anyone responsible for what you did except yourself, noone bent your arm and made you do it bud.
no disclaimer? yeah right you obviously didn't read anything because when you choose to download the program it comes up to a page that has their disclaimer right there in front of your face before you download it...
sue mirc? Unrealircd? ME? yeah right
Laterz,
Last edited by Swoop; 26/03/04 03:33 PM.
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Hoopy frood
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Hoopy frood
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take a deep breath and calm down please. i realize that computers can be frustrating and i'm sorry you are having probs, but there's no need for all that nastiness.
you asked a question, and volunteers took the time to make suggestions. obviously there are a lot of ppl who use mIRC and unreal that dont have any probs. there is no way anyone here can know what you have on your machine, what your configuration is, or how you went about the install. it really is your responsibility to investigate and read all info on any software before you install it, as well as be thoroughly familiar with your machine so you can be aware of potential conflicts/problems.
we make every effort to remove anything in posts that we know could cause harm. Unreal IRCD is widely used, as of course is mIRC.
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Hoopy frood
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Hoopy frood
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You are suing only for $10,000? Most legal counsel (the ones worth using anyway) wouldn't get out of bed for less than that so you are probably wasting your time.
mIRC licence agreement:
mIRC is provided AS IS without warranty of any kind, either express or implied, including but not limited to the implied warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose. In no event shall mIRC Co. Ltd. be liable for any damages whatsoever including direct, indirect, incidental, consequential, loss of business profits or special damages, even if mIRC Co. Ltd. has been advised of the possibility of such damages.
This takes the form of a disclaimer because you are meant to read and agree to it before installing the software instead of just pressing "I agree". What you could do though is read your local trading laws and see if the licence contravenes them, if so then you'd have an opportunity to seek recompense. Don't just assume a lawyer knows the answer though, until they read an Act thoroughly they are often no more knowledgable about a subject of law than Mr Average.
UnrealIRC licence agreement:
NO WARRANTY
11. BECAUSE THE PROGRAM IS LICENSED FREE OF CHARGE, THERE IS NO WARRANTY FOR THE PROGRAM, TO THE EXTENT PERMITTED BY APPLICABLE LAW. EXCEPT WHEN OTHERWISE STATED IN WRITING THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND/OR OTHER PARTIES PROVIDE THE PROGRAM "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. THE ENTIRE RISK AS TO THE QUALITY AND PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM IS WITH YOU. SHOULD THE PROGRAM PROVE DEFECTIVE, YOU ASSUME THE COST OF ALL NECESSARY SERVICING, REPAIR OR CORRECTION.
12. IN NO EVENT UNLESS REQUIRED BY APPLICABLE LAW OR AGREED TO IN WRITING WILL ANY COPYRIGHT HOLDER, OR ANY OTHER PARTY WHO MAY MODIFY AND/OR REDISTRIBUTE THE PROGRAM AS PERMITTED ABOVE, BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR DAMAGES, INCLUDING ANY GENERAL, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF THE USE OR INABILITY TO USE THE PROGRAM (INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO LOSS OF DATA OR DATA BEING RENDERED INACCURATE OR LOSSES SUSTAINED BY YOU OR THIRD PARTIES OR A FAILURE OF THE PROGRAM TO OPERATE WITH ANY OTHER PROGRAMS), EVEN IF SUCH HOLDER OR OTHER PARTY HAS BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES.
The same applies however because Unreal is free, you have absolutely no claim as free products and services are exempt from warranty claims.
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