Forums General Discussion mIRC 6.1 is NOT working out for me!

Well, in the past, there are always two things I do after loading a new build of mIRC on my machine:

1) Change the icon(s), at least the first one/group to something of my own, using either a res editor like execope or ResHacker, or I can use a icon library builder to do it, like Microangelo

2) I like trim the file size of mirc.exe down by using an "executable file compressor" such as UPX or others.

Now either of these two things will make miRC corrupt to the point wher it will not even load the program up. So now, I have to be force to keep using mIRC 6.03 until maybe it will get fix. Or I can never update again,which is quite sad.

What's the problem with just leaving it as it is?

1) i like this to look the way i want, and work the way i want (you can also edit the menu and dialogs) things that work well deserves to look well. I like things that I use often to match the personal/customized look I have going at the moment. All this is prefectly safe as it doesn't directly mess around with program code itself, well not if the author start "hard-coding" it.

2) why not have smaller files if the app loading time doesn't decrease by it (sometimes actually speeds it up) and it can help block against things like virus from infecting the compressed file

My suggestion is, if you want things to work the way YOU want, then go to your local book store, but some C++ Manuals, then go to your local computer store, but a C++ Compiler, and then code your own IRC Client... Khaled coded mIRC to fit the suggestions of the users that post on the board, and himself. If you cant keep things the way they was originally made, then you shouldn't be using the program.

i also thing you should be able to change icons. then you can make it match the rest of your desktop.. now you have to hide it "sorry Khaled"

last time I remember you can change the icons on the toolbar by simple making your own set and then right clicking the toolbar, going to buttons and click select.

what about channel icons query icons @window icons ect... gotta do that with res editor that block from editing mirc is just causeing too many issues with too many people... it was a bad idea...

*astounded look*

I just......ugh....I just can't get my head around WHAT the problem is with the current mIRC icons? Matching the desktop? Microsoft Office programs come with their own buttons/icons - I don't use it much, but to the best of my knowledge, the icons in MS Office programs are not customisable. The same goes for OE/IE buttons. I doubt you email Bill Gates or his cronies to tell him that Windows sucks because it's buttons are not customisable?

Just deal with the fact that mIRC has it's own icons, that do not *need* changing. Just seems like a pointless reason to moan to me.

Regards,

you need to let people do whatever they want to do with the software.

I did changing icons thru res-hack and change words :P

Im very disppointed in mirc 6.1

I know im not only one who is not happy.

alright mentality. heres the deal... mirc was made with the users in mind. it seems that khaled went a little to far in coding for mainly program protection. but thats my own opinion... as far as changing the icons. people should be able to do so.. and the reason microsoft does suck is because they do crap like that. i have been with mirc since version 4.1 and this is the only time im disappointed. now if u are so holy and high.. about this new version.. why dont u make a new thread about all the wonderful things about 6.1 and stop pestering others about their own preference

No, see here is the thing. With windows you dont do what you want with other peoples software. It isnt open source. And doing so breaks many user agreement policies. Just like mp3's, you buy a CD, rip it, and then distribute it across the .net. Not only did you break the little agreement on the back of the CD, but you broke the law, and all because "it's my CD and I'll do what I want."

there is no law against customizing.... with relation to the topic.. its like me writing my name or drawing a picture on a cd... would i be arressted?!?!! *GASP*


and its not like we are actually going into the code and changing stuff

haha!,reshacker corrupts certain files,last time i used it on mirc 6.03 it wouldnt work at all(this file is either incomplete or corrupted), all i did was change "tools" to "options"

no more scripts with modified executables e.g.: scoop
Cheers!

give it a fev days, then it will be editors out there to edit mirc.exe with the problem makes the ppl start create i dont think you can protect your program to 100%, it will allways be somone that find a smart way "or maybe a bug" to make it possible

Well imho, all Khaled did was prevent the "legitimate" people from editting it. I.e., the people who are translating mIRC into another language. The people who want to edit the version reply, they're gonna get around this no problem at all. mIRC probably just does a CRC32 or MD5 on it's exe file to see if it matches some internal value. So what do you do? You modify where mIRC stores the internal value and set it to the value of the exe after you made the changes. The people who want to edit mIRC for "illegal" purposes are going to figure out how to do it anyway, all Khaled did was prevent the people who just want mIRC to display in Spanish from translating it. Is translating really illegal? Yeah, but seeing as how Khaled still hasn't added translation support (yet another feature neglected for 6.1), I think it's at least a legitimate thing to do, that is, unless Khaled has decided he doesn't want people in other countries to use mIRC.

there is no law against customizing....

That's right, there is NO law against customising - providing you customise your toolbar with a bitmap as the programme allows you to do and not rip the guts out of the EXE which is clearly not part of the deal.

Well that depends on what country you live in. Some countries, I believe the Phillipines is one of them, there are virtually NO "cyber laws" you can do almost anything you want on a computer from there.

all done

Oh, what an l337 post.