Forums General Discussion searching for a script

Actually, it has nothing to do with particular channels. I listed those just because they are likely to yield results. Search any network (that allows filesharing) for warez/mp3/etc and you'll find a lot of people in a lot of different channels... some channels with many users, some with few, but the total number in them is very large. Search for channels that are sharing legal files and you'll find few channels and few people (note that I am referring to channels where people are sharing files... not channels where people are chatting... using those numbers doesn't have any impact on what is legal or illegal). That's a valid proof.


Take 100 random warez channels and 100 random channels that have any sharing of legal materials. Count the users in them. Find your percent of legal vs. illegal users and you'll get your proof. And, I'm even allowing you to count the users in the channels who aren't sharing... I said that "any" sharing in the legal channel would count... which would mean that you can count everyone in a channel where 1 user sends 1 pic. Even being that generous, the numbers speak for themselves.

If someone really doesn't believe this is true, say so. Everything else aside from this discussion. If you honestly believe that over 75% of filesharing is illegal, say so. If necessary, I may take the time to randomly choose 100 channels of each type (assuming I can even find that many legal file sharing channels) and give you the numbers. But, I doubt anyone really believes otherwise. I think that all the arguments over proving it are just because some of you think we should help regardless of whether or not it's legal filesharing going on, not because you think I'm wrong about the numbers.

As I said, I have no problem helping with those issues if the forum chooses to allow that. I've made my own improved @find script for my own channel (not listed here) that people really like using. But, as long the forum stands against helping with illegal file sharing... then, my suggestion stands that we should just suggest that people ask on one of the MANY places you can get such help.

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But, until the forum decides to officially support such questions, I'm not going to do so.

But my position is that the forum has never decided
against supporting it until Khaled or Tjerk make it official.

Moderators are here to enforce rules, not create them,
just like the police, they enforce laws, they don't make new
ones.

If neither is here, then it is up to the moderators to control how and what goes on in a forum. Any good forum chooses moderators who the board owner trusts to make decisions (including rule changes) whenever the owner isn't active on the board.

That is true, but since file sharing always turns into such
a hot issue everytime it comes up, would it be so hard for
one or both of them to take an official position as to whether
or not it is allowed? I would think not. But getting back
to the point of my first reply to you, file sharing does not
automatically mean illegal. I too tend to leave alone the
posts that are obviously referring to illegal file sharing,
that's why my reply to this question was "tsk tsk",
this is obviously someone downloading something they
shouldn't be, but there are tons of other posts where
there is no clue whatsoever as to what they are downloading
or uploading, but you and many others always jump to
the negative and start spewing out your we don't help
with file sharing BS.

/me exits this conversation mumbling

For goodness sake.

mIRCManiac, you don't say what the moderators can and can't do, it really isn't up to you. Karen made a sticky thread a long time ago to cover threads that say things like "How do I download movies with mIRC, XDCC catcher isn't working?!?" - that is a forum rule, created by moderators and not by Tjerk (though I have yet to see him protest to how this forum is run). If you have a problem with it then that's tough luck.

Occasionally a thread is not explicit in its explanation that their downloading is illegal, but there are a number of key words (xdcc/download/bots) where it's a perfectly fair assumption to make. When people, including myself, have made the wrong assumption (which I've seen happen perhaps 5-6 times), they've been helped. The fact that people like you want to turn a blind eye at every opportunity, almost certainly because you see nothing wrong with illegal file sharing, is irrelevant and doesn't mean myself, other moderators, or other helpers, are enforcing their opinions on everyone.

Calling people brown nosers because they follow, and agree with, forum rules, IS insulting and unacceptable not to mention untrue so cut it out.

DaveC: Meaningless posts which contribute nothing to a thread , of which you have made 2 in this thread and several more across the forum, are better not posted at all and had you not posted them here the whole situation would have been avoided.

Thread locked, off topic, insults, stupidity.

Regards,