Don't you think it's kinda 'bad form' to post ways for people to try and hide their code on a forum where practically every reply is a peice of code given by a helper? Seems like a bit of a slap in the face that people should get help from others willing to freely create and hand out code and then have those people turn around and hide their code (including the helpers') in some misplaced notion of *code ownership*. In my mind the key element of these forums and the design of mIRC scripting in general is the sharing of code and it's open nature.