yes and the opinion of a wanna be leet talking child should be listened to by all, really the US is backwards from the rest of the world, no other country uses dates that way, now u can argue its because americans are backwards or everyone else is, but put quite simpley, the us does it to be different from the rest of the world, as with our non compliance with using the metric system, like the rest of the world, again this is by no means any arguement claiming who is correct and who isnt. and it isnt mirc's place to be figuring this out, mirc is for enjoying the ability to meet ppl ud never have the chance to any other way, politics and suchs shouldnt be its target.