pheonix code worked out just fine..you guys dont know any place where i can read about this feture, i dont just want to copy your code then "wow i made it".. i want to understand what the h*ll i using to grin i have been trying to find it in mirc.hlp, but i cant get a grip around it in that file, maybe its me that are a slow learner dunno, but thnx for the help.. smirk