to start, thanks for the reply. The -10 is just the way mdx sets a font of 10.. strange but it's the way the readme says to do it.. having it as '10' actually makes the font a lot smaller with mdx. Also the correct width for the verdana test is about 71 (+5 from what $width reports). This can be seen in the photoshop method I listed at top.

Thanks again

Anyone else try this with mdx/photoshop?