Maroon Thank You for the reply, alot has happen since the post from 2 years. i tried different installs of mIRC same issue. i totally wipe mIRC and now have 7.57 install and just trying to do a normal send and chat. i'm no programmer so i don't use any scripts. i do believe it's something in the mcafee livesafe anti virus, and i was hoping someone that uses this can help me pin point the problem within it. i don't know what else to check or set in the anti virus to get it working. can't get help in chat rooms on mIRC.