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Posted By: melhaze registration - 13/09/03 06:49 AM
if you already have a registration number, where do you put the number in mirc ?
Posted By: J0ke Re: registration - 13/09/03 08:49 AM
type /registration grin
Posted By: Raccoon Re: registration - 13/09/03 08:50 AM
You follow the directions given to you in Khaled's email.

There's no reason anyone should be asking this question on here.
Posted By: sparta Re: registration - 13/09/03 08:13 PM
Maybe the key didnt come from Khaled.. many key's out there that are "hacked" ones..
Posted By: codemastr Re: registration - 13/09/03 08:18 PM
There are plenty of reasons why that could be asked. Do you save your emails... forever? Maybe he registered mIRC 4 years ago. Obviously, he would have deleted the email since then. But, he took the time to write the registration code down on a piece of paper. Now he got a new PC and he wants to register mIRC. So he needs to know where to enter the information since he no longer has the email explaining it.

I'd say that's a very likely scenario.
Posted By: Raccoon Re: registration - 13/09/03 11:27 PM
Well, I do have emails dating back to '97, if that counts. :x

Regardless, the volume of people asking this question suggests either mass-amnesia about such a simple process... or that people are using unscrupulous means of obtaining a registration code.

I think we ought to simply direct users to this page instead, allowing them to obtain a new email with official instructions.
Posted By: KoRn18 Re: registration - 14/09/03 12:14 AM
anyone who doesnt think to look in the help menu to register any program isnt to bright... every program iv came across that needs registered, u could register via help menu
Posted By: ParaBrat Re: registration - 14/09/03 01:42 AM
good point, there do seem to be a lot asking that question all of a sudden. i suppose codemastrs scenario is quite possible, as is that ppl have had the code for a long time and just not entered it, altho....
Posted By: LocutusofBorg Re: registration - 14/09/03 07:03 AM
That means a whole lotta eople bought new computers at about the same time 6.1 comes out. Since you don't have to re-enter the key for a simple upgrade. Call me a pessimist, but it's the type of coincedence I don't believe in smile
Posted By: r0ck0 Re: registration - 14/09/03 02:06 PM
yes it is quite possible ... some of you are acting like they're asking for your registration code or something. where's the beef here? they're just asking how/where to enter the code and you guys are assuming they're thieves.

Edit: Sorry ParaBrat, yours was just the reply I clicked on. smirk
Posted By: LocutusofBorg Re: registration - 14/09/03 02:11 PM
It's called experience...
Posted By: r0ck0 Re: registration - 14/09/03 02:14 PM
It's called cynicism...
Posted By: KoRn18 Re: registration - 14/09/03 03:00 PM
its called people cracking mirc...
Posted By: r0ck0 Re: registration - 14/09/03 03:02 PM
so you're saying that because a few people do it, that means everyone does it, or anyone asking for help regarding registration does it?

do you do it?
if your answer is no, how would you like people to assume you do just because you're asking for help with registering?
Posted By: pheonix Re: registration - 14/09/03 03:24 PM
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if you already have a registration number, where do you put the number in mirc ?

he doesnt know where to put the code, OMG that means hes cracking mirc shocked, nope..
Posted By: codemastr Re: registration - 14/09/03 03:46 PM
I don't recall the registration email mentioning the /registration command. I can't seem to find it in the help file either. So, if Khaled wanted everyone to either get the information on where to enter the code either from the email or the help file, why would he create a command that is not mentioned in either?
Posted By: LocutusofBorg Re: registration - 14/09/03 05:07 PM
It either means he downloaded a cracked copy, or it means he's too lazy to read the email he was sent which clearly explained how to add the key. It also means then that he is too lazy to look it up in the helpfile, or -as said earlier- that he has never registered any shareware at all, because the ALL have a registration option under the help menu.
Posted By: LocutusofBorg Re: registration - 14/09/03 05:09 PM
Guess it's another one of those undocumented features, as it does work smile
Posted By: Raccoon Re: registration - 14/09/03 05:12 PM
If Khaled wanted everyone to know about the /registration command, it would be documented.

There's a greater chance that such a command exists because the Help > Register menu item disappears after you register, leaving no means for someone to 'correct' their information when they decide to become legit.

One should only have to give this command out to users who have previously cracked mIRC. To say the least, we shouldn't be giving it out.

- Raccoon
Posted By: codemastr Re: registration - 14/09/03 05:34 PM
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One should only have to give this command out to users who have previously cracked mIRC. To say the least, we shouldn't be giving it out.


I've given it out at least a dozen times, and I see other people are as well. No moderator, to my knowledge, has ever modified a post that contained this command, nor have I ever received a private message from a moderator and/or Khaled/Tjerk telling me that we are not supposed to give that command out. Therefore I completely disagree with you. If Khaled wanted that command to only work on registered versions of mIRC then he would have made it so it didn't work in unregistered versions. He did not do this. You are simply guessing what his intention was, and you don't really have facts to back it up.
Posted By: KoRn18 Re: registration - 14/09/03 07:00 PM
ok get this.
/registration -- a command to register unregistered copys of mirc shouldnt work in unregistered copys of mirc, but it should work in registered copys... ur not think that through are you
Posted By: codemastr Re: registration - 14/09/03 07:01 PM
Try reading a bit closer, I'm not the one saying that, Racoon is.
Posted By: Poppy Re: registration - 14/09/03 07:04 PM
If /registration was only to work with a registered copy, how would mIRC know that it was a registered copy? Typing /registration to register surely means that it's an unregistered copy in the first place. I think I'm lost! crazy
Posted By: LocutusofBorg Re: registration - 14/09/03 07:32 PM
To me, /register would sound like a command to add registration info, /registration would sound like a command to show you what you have.
Posted By: codemastr Re: registration - 14/09/03 07:38 PM
Except many networks already have a /register command. It works similar to the /identify command.
Posted By: LocutusofBorg Re: registration - 14/09/03 08:01 PM
Evil networks....
Posted By: PastMaster Re: registration - 15/09/03 02:22 PM
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There's no reason anyone should be asking this question on here


The implication in this statement is that just because someone isn't bright enough to find the place themselves means that they are not worthy of help... which I find rather disturbing.

Of course, the asker could just be overtired, but that never happens to clever people, I guess...

For what it's worth, I just shifted everything from a desktop to a laptop, and of course mIRC registration was lost, meaning I had to re-add the code. That's another scenario for why people might need to ask...

PastMaster
Posted By: Raccoon Re: registration - 15/09/03 03:30 PM
The implication in this statement is that just because someone isn't bright enough to find the place themselves means that they are not worthy of help... which I find rather disturbing.

You're not getting the point.

It seems rather odd that a sudden influx if people are asking "Where do I enter my registration info?".
This suggests one of the following.
  • All these users just registered and failed to read the email instructions.
  • All these users registered a long time ago and successfully entered their registration info the first time, but suddenly decided to format their computer and install mIRC 6.10 but took the time and wrote their reg information on a piece of paper... but failed to remember the whole Help > Register process.
  • These users unscrupulously generated their own registration info, and thus have no instructional email to guide them.
  • These users unscrupulously generated a NEW registration key because their old "serial" stopped working in 6.10.. and they can't enter this new information because the menu item is still missing. (i obviously dont know if this is how mIRC behaves, but it would explain why people cant find the option)
The point of my post, in addition to the above points, is that giving out the /registration command is completely unnecessary.

I would never turn down someone's request for help, I just think we should what answers are appropriate to give. I believe we can safely tell users:

"Goto this page and enter your email address. Instructions will be emailed to you."

- Raccoon
Posted By: codemastr Re: registration - 15/09/03 04:15 PM
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All these users registered a long time ago and successfully entered their registration info the first time, but suddenly decided to format their computer and install mIRC 6.10 but took the time and wrote their reg information on a piece of paper... but failed to remember the whole Help > Register process.

Or they purchased a new computer, or the purchased a second computer, or they want to use their registration key on a PC at school, or at work, etc.

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These users unscrupulously generated a NEW registration key because their old "serial" stopped working in 6.10.. and they can't enter this new information because the menu item is still missing. (i obviously dont know if this is how mIRC behaves, but it would explain why people cant find the option)

I just tested using an illegal key, it was one that said it was for 6.03, it successfully worked in 6.1, so this whole argument is simply fiction.
Posted By: LocutusofBorg Re: registration - 15/09/03 08:12 PM
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Or they purchased a new computer, or the purchased a second computer, or they want to use their registration key on a PC at school, or at work, etc.


Would they then not have the original email they were suggested to print out for later reference?

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I just tested using an illegal key, it was one that said it was for 6.03, it successfully worked in 6.1, so this whole argument is simply fiction.


This you didn't need to test. A mIRC registration is a lifetime one - that's not possible if each version were to have it's own key.
Posted By: Krejt Re: registration - 15/09/03 08:42 PM
Aren't you all (!) turning a simple and perfectly allowed question into a very difficult discussion?
Posted By: codemastr Re: registration - 15/09/03 08:52 PM
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Would they then not have the original email they were suggested to print out for later reference?


I don't know about everyone else, but I get roughly 500-750 emails a day. I don't save an email usually for more than a month. If I saved all my email, I'd need a seperate harddrive just to accomodate it.
Posted By: LocutusofBorg Re: registration - 16/09/03 04:15 AM
Probably - but one has to do something to waste time smile
Posted By: NightCrawler8283 Re: registration - 17/09/03 08:31 PM
why cant we just give the dude an answer and move on? frown there are many people out there who use webmail.. now some webmail is free.. and since they are free.. they dont last. i have had 9 email accounts deleted because the services was no longer supported... so if i were to use my old email to get a reg from that site.. i would have to use my old email.. and it would try and send the email there... hrmmm.. how does one solve that issue?
Posted By: codemastr Re: registration - 17/09/03 11:09 PM
I agree, I say you give someone the benefit of the doubt unless they give you reason to think they are doing something illegal. If the guy said "I just got this serial off of a website, how do I load it into mIRC?" thats another story. But nothing this guy said indicates he is doing anything illegal/unethical/etc.
Posted By: ParaBrat Re: registration - 18/09/03 03:44 AM
Take a look at http://www.mirc.com/reglost.html it does take into consideration that your email may have changed since you registered mIRC and will send it to your current email addy.
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