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about the new switchbar

Posted By: krake

about the new switchbar - 29/07/06 04:08 PM

I don't like that new buttons, so..could you please make a checkbox to turn the buttons smaller again ?
Posted By: landonsandor

Re: about the new switchbar - 29/07/06 04:38 PM

An option for that would be a good idea - or better yet, let us decide our own size by an edit box and we can edit the number of inches we want them to be. A checkbox to allways allow full names to be shown regardless of how small we make it - so like if a name is 4 inches long but we choose the box to be 3 inches long, it goes 4 inches would be nice smile
Posted By: vasil_michev

Re: about the new switchbar - 29/07/06 05:18 PM

why did Khaled change the size at first place? i hate the new buttons smirk
Posted By: raZOR

Re: about the new switchbar - 29/07/06 05:41 PM

they are also screwed with win themes
Posted By: Mentality

Re: about the new switchbar - 29/07/06 06:52 PM

I don't know what people are whining about, I can barely see the difference.
Posted By: PhantasyX

Re: about the new switchbar - 29/07/06 07:04 PM

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I don't know what people are whining about, I can barely see the difference.


I agree, with 6.2 switchbar buttons set to Small (Options -> Display). There's only 1px height difference. (Atleast on my machine).

Posted By: rubah

Re: about the new switchbar - 29/07/06 07:29 PM

it's not the height difference. It's the width. on two networks with seven channels open, that takes up the entire width of the switchbar, rather than them being 82 px wide or whatever in 6.17. I'm not used to looking that far over, and it just looks cluttered, so right now i have a couple of query windows open to make them be in the right spots frown
Posted By: gomp

Re: about the new switchbar - 29/07/06 08:30 PM

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it's not the height difference. It's the width. on two networks with seven channels open, that takes up the entire width of the switchbar, rather than them being 82 px wide or whatever in 6.17. I'm not used to looking that far over, and it just looks cluttered, so right now i have a couple of query windows open to make them be in the right spots frown


I hate this..

Whish there was an option to rightclisk the tab, and make it staywherver you wanted it..


crazy
Posted By: gomp

Re: about the new switchbar - 29/07/06 08:44 PM

I wish they could have been EVEN SMALLER! smile
Posted By: Om3n

Re: about the new switchbar - 30/07/06 09:45 AM

agreed, the button size options are not to my liking, i would suggest that the 'small' be equivelent to the old mirc 6.17 and earlier size, AND in addition i think there should be a 'cutom' option to allow you to set the height and width manually as you were able to do in pre 6.2 versions.
also mentioned by Sephiroth_ here http://forums.mirc.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=162111&an=0&page=0

I agree, in previos version you could also manually change the height and width, this feature is no longer availible in 6.2. Not quiet sure what advantage or reasoning was behind the change, but i dont see why the effort would be made to further restrict you by giving just 3 size options. (as apposed to an infinate number of possibilities in previous versions)

Mentality, while the difference is minimal (actually 2px on my system, 1 top and 1 bottom), for people in a larger number of channels and/or networks this can add up quite quickly.

My suggestion would be for the small option to be consistant with pre 6.2 versions of mirc (24x82?) and the addition of a 'custom' option where you can manually set the height to a value of your choice (as also avail. in pre 6.2 versions, width possibly no longer neccersary since it can be dragged)
Posted By: vasil_michev

Re: about the new switchbar - 30/07/06 10:37 AM

well this is how it looks on my screen, its HUGE:

It can fit 30+ chars I guess, way too much empty space

btw, we are talking about width when switchbar position is top/bottom
Posted By: Om3n

Re: about the new switchbar - 30/07/06 10:59 AM

I completely overlooked the effect of the width, as i use mine on the side. In which case i take back my comment about manual customization of the width not being needed, since although its not needed for those that use a side switchbar it would be good for those that use it on top or bottom.
Posted By: FiXato

Re: about the new switchbar - 30/07/06 01:45 PM

I'd like to vote for the return of the custom sizes as well.
I think I just lost about 2 or 3 lines worth of text in my channel overview smirk


Also, Om3n, even for the side Switchbar it would be very usefull to atleast define the height of the tabs.
Posted By: Om3n

Re: about the new switchbar - 30/07/06 02:13 PM

Ps.. you guys can ignore the entire first paragraph in my original post, at the end i had 'scribbled' it down in a text file to post about late. Kinda forgot to remove it when i did type the post.
Posted By: RusselB

Re: about the new switchbar - 30/07/06 05:11 PM

The number of characters displayed is dependent on the amount of space each character takes up. I tried
#1234567890123456789012345
shows #1234567890123456789...
yet a channel that I'm working on
#A-BDSM-Truth-or-Dare-Dungeon
shows #A-BDSM-Truth-or-Dare-...

If you count the actual number of characters being displayed, the channel with all numbers has fewer characters than the other channel.
Posted By: Wolfie

Re: about the new switchbar - 02/08/06 10:05 PM

Here's my visual comarison...

6.16 on top, 6.20 on bottom



6.16 left, 6.20 right


I like having itty bitty buttons. Once I loaded up 6.20, I couldn't help but notice how huge the switchbar had gotten.

I do 3 rows. Seeing how there is a noticable difference with just one, you can imagine how much different 3 would be. It's such a difference that 2 rows of 6.20 is just about the same height as 3 of 6.16 (for me).

I do like the tree idea, I think that will be very helpful to some people. I doubt I'll be making use of it myself, but that's just a personal preferance and not any sort of dislike with the tree. However I do think that the display menu option could be broken down to have switchbar and tree submenus. That way, you know what options are for which view. Also, give us back our custom sizes...while at it, let us size smaller than 24 height for the buttons. smile
Posted By: ThiefMaster

Re: about the new switchbar - 04/08/06 08:12 AM

6.2:

6.17:
Posted By: ThiefMaster

Re: about the new switchbar - 16/08/06 07:56 PM

So... is there any change to get it changed maybe in 6.21?
Or did anyone hack the executable to change this (dunno if it's just an attribute of a gui element).
Posted By: Wolfie

Re: about the new switchbar - 17/08/06 06:21 AM

I hope it's changed back in 6.21

I like my itty bitty buttons.
Posted By: x64

Re: about the new switchbar - 20/08/06 09:45 AM

You people need to grow up. The buttons get smaller if your switchbar fills up. Shut up and buy a bigger monitor. Do you complain to microsoft about the taskbar button sizes? Because it's exactly the same size.
Posted By: Wolfie

Re: about the new switchbar - 25/08/06 07:30 AM

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You people need to grow up. The buttons get smaller if your switchbar fills up. Shut up and buy a bigger monitor. Do you complain to microsoft about the taskbar button sizes? Because it's exactly the same size.
Um, that's quite rude and to be bluntly honest, your own behavior shows who really needs to grow up.

As for the bigger monitor, you pay for it and I'll be more than happy to follow that advice, otherwise stop telling other people how to spend their money.

Thank you in advance for realizing your rudeness and not making yourself look worse by posting more rude comments. smile
Posted By: ThiefMaster

Re: about the new switchbar - 30/08/06 10:40 PM

I just tested the automatic size changing and it actually works.
However, I like all buttons having the same size even if they could be bigger.
I'd really like to see a feature to toggle this in 6.21 - then everyone can use what he likes. smile
Posted By: XCan

Re: about the new switchbar - 17/10/06 05:45 PM

I agree, I switched back to 6.17 purely because of this. I too think keeping it customizable as in 6.17 is the best way to go. With a lot of channels open you do realise a huge difference in the amount of space it takes both vertically and horisontally.
Posted By: TRT

Re: about the new switchbar - 16/12/06 11:41 PM

please bring back options to manually change the switchbar width and height frown
Posted By: RusselB

Re: about the new switchbar - 17/12/06 05:21 PM

It looks to me like the button sizes have returned to the size that they were in 6.17 (and earlier) now that 6.21 has been released.
In the options dialog, I have the button size set for small, and it's almost identical to what I had in 6.17 (visually on my system the difference is an extra one pixel in the width, and no difference in the height).

If Khaled did bring back the option to control the height & width of the buttons (ie: allowing you to set the number of pixels) then I was unable to locate the setting.
Posted By: Om3n

Re: about the new switchbar - 18/12/06 02:10 PM

This is certainly not the case, i cant compare 6.20 and 6.21 to determine if the 'width' when the bar is at the top or bottom has changed, but i can say that on 'small' the height is the same as 6.20 (larger than older versions) and the width when at top/bottom is significantly larger than the older versions.

This was actually the first thing i looked into when 6.21 was released (and again suggested the option be returned).

I guess my real confusion with it all is as to why it was removed in the first place?

I am still using 6.17 for my main client because i just couldn't get used to the significant difference in size at the time. i like the idea of the small medium and large options but the custom settings didn't really need to go did they?
Posted By: JohnS

Re: about the new switchbar - 25/04/07 07:56 AM

what could be cool is an option maybe too for the buttons to be as big as the text label. so smaller named channels would have shorter buttons. especially cool if the switchbar is horizontal. not so much with the verticle orientation i guess laugh
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