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Posted By: ReCover Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 07/09/03 02:15 PM
It seems that you have altered so that you Can't Resource Hack Version 6.1 of mIRC
I Resource Hack it because of the Tray,
Please come with Solutions etc.
Posted By: codemastr Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 07/09/03 03:21 PM
The solution would be to use mIRC 6.03.
Posted By: oriongods Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 07/09/03 07:33 PM
try ExeScope then
Posted By: LocutusofBorg Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 07/09/03 07:52 PM
Buh. Since when do we help people with hacking the exe file? If you don't like the way it is, feel free to

a] use another client
b] write your own client.
Posted By: oriongods Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 07/09/03 07:58 PM
hacking is when you change the code, this programs change only GUI
Posted By: J0ke Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 07/09/03 08:04 PM
yea righ mad
GUI is part of program, so it is a code...
Posted By: oriongods Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 07/09/03 08:18 PM
dont agree much, look at scoop script, IT IS CHARGED !!! and ALSO changed GUI on MIRC itself AND it still is "legal" to use and download and i havent saw any complains or charges against author !
Posted By: SladeKraven Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 07/09/03 10:43 PM
If you don't agree much, why did your last post read 'wise ass', before you changed it.
Now, I don't know about everyone else, but to me when you said 'wise ass' it means that you know he is right. So don't give us that bullcrap.
Have you seen anyone else encourage others to hack the exe file, even if they are making minor changes? No.
Why don't you see it?
I'll tell you why.
  • 1. We respect Khaled and mIRC.
  • 2. We understood and agreed everything that is stated the license agreement.
  • 3. Anyways, I am not too sure on this (so don't quote me) but there might be a dll for what the original poster wanted, if there isn't, he could do do what everyone does and learn how to script in mIRC then write a Dynamic Link Library for mIRC in MSVC++.
Posted By: codemastr Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 07/09/03 10:52 PM
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1. We respect Khaled and mIRC.

How would, for example, changing the mIRC icon to an XP style icon (32bit color) be disrespectful to Khaled and/or mIRC?

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2. We understood and agreed everything that is stated the license agreement.

Read the license, all it says is you can't modify the exe then distribute it. It doesn't say you can't modify it and use it yourself.

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3. Anyways, I am not too sure on this (so don't quote me) but there might be a dll for what the original poster wanted, if there isn't, he could do do what everyone does and learn how to script in mIRC then write a Dynamic Link Library for mIRC in MSVC++.

If you claim it is "disrespectful" to make his modification via resource editting, why would making the change via a dll be any less disrespectful?
Posted By: oriongods Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 07/09/03 10:54 PM
what last post? and what "wise ass" ?? there is no post like that and if i edited it then it would say and i quote POST EDITED BY ORIONGODS... so technically you are selling bullcrap AND still that was not any answer/comment on my last post, + there are MANY scripts on mircscripts.org that are edited that way andi'm shure that khaled knows that with other millions users so AGAIN i dont see any charges against authors and/or site itself so NORMAL speaking that site ALSO contains illegal material and in NORMAL it should be closed so dont gimme BS on this public post about so called hacking coz there is PUBLIC website with illegal content that SUPPORTS that kind of materials - therefore... dare i say YOU KNOW [censored] !
Posted By: oriongods Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 07/09/03 10:57 PM
and thanx to codemastr... seems he's only wise human here
Posted By: KoRn18 Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 07/09/03 10:59 PM
actually im with you two... editing mirc for personal use is 100% ok
Posted By: _D3m0n_ Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 07/09/03 11:15 PM
i have edited my own mirc.exe in the past .. i do not change the version reply in the exe at all ... i only make visual changes to icons and images ... with that said i personally feel that shouldnt be any problem at all ... anything else id ever like to change in mirc can be scripted really really easily
Posted By: SladeKraven Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 07/09/03 11:44 PM
Uhh, excuse me, I know what I saw, and yes I did see 'wise ass', and yes, you did edit your post, however it does have a little checkbox saying Mark as edited.
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there are MANY scripts on mircscripts.org that are edited that way

See, it is NOT for personal uses, they are being re distributed.
Posted By: SladeKraven Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 07/09/03 11:57 PM
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If you claim it is "disrespectful" to make his modification via resource editting, why would making the change via a dll be any less disrespectful?

There is a huge difference in editing mIRC with a resource hacker and writing dll's to WORK with mIRC. Aye, resource hackers help you, but they don't do much, only let you change mostly everythng in mIRC.
Posted By: oriongods Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 12:00 AM
>>See, it is NOT for personal uses, they are being re distributed.<<

YES ILLEGALY ACCORDING TO YOUR DESCRIPTION ON EDITING,, itz same crap as if you take your neighbours car, change the outer color and wheels and then giving it to someone else !
Posted By: andymps Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 *DELETED* - 08/09/03 12:01 AM
Post deleted by andymps
Posted By: oriongods Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 12:09 AM
>>You CANNOT redistribute mIRC once it has been changed.<<

well tell that to authors out there PLEASE !
Posted By: andymps Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 12:12 AM
I too also saw wise ass, then moments later you changes it,
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mircscripts.org change mirc that way all the time

You CANNOT redistribute mIRC once it has been changed.
replied to wrong person :-/
Posted By: oriongods Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 12:17 AM
ANYHOWS - to author - if you cant find ExeScope on net just post here if you want it i'll send you it via e-mail so we can end this posting and get ridd of this HOLY helpers exept those 2 guys above that have brain
Posted By: LocutusofBorg Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 04:23 AM
Maybe you should learn some respect for people who know what they are talking about.

quote: "dont agree much, look at scoop script, IT IS CHARGED !!! and ALSO changed GUI on MIRC itself AND it still is "legal" to use and download"

First off, scoop script sucks because of the extrenme color abuse and spam

Second, charged? you mean it has all kinds of lame stuff added to it

Third, legal to use (if you did it yourself, yes) and download (hell no, read the license agreement you accepted when you installed it). Distributing modified files is not allowed dude.

Fourth, insulting people because they explain things like this to you is a big sign of immaturity. People like you are not needed on these forums, so go find some hacker forum to spend time on.

Fifth, "hacking is when you change the code" - and what do you think a resource hacker does? grow daisies and sunflowers in your garden?

Last: Not calling people names who disagree with you solely because they do so is a form of common decency. You should learn about that.
Posted By: SladeKraven Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 05:34 AM
To oriongods:
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and thanx to codemastr... seems he's only wise human here

Doesn't quite seem like it from here.
It seems that LocutusofBorg is the only wise human here, and also Andymps, I would say for backing me up but, I didn't really need it because I know what I saw.
To LocutusofBorg:
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Maybe you should learn some respect for people who know what they are talking about.

I do respect you because of your first and last post. grin
Now after that respectful speech,
"live and let die" - This thread, is dead. smile
Posted By: LocutusofBorg Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 09:03 AM
Hmm. maybe I screwed up - that remark was not for you, it was meant for oriongods. Apologies if you thought it was to you.
Posted By: Miguel_A Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 10:22 AM
I agree with LocutusofBorg .
When you use the Resource Hancker to do someting with a program that don´t belong to you ( you are not the autor), you are modifying the code ( Ripping ).
But when you use the Remote , alianses, popups, dll , etc ...
you are not changing the code you are only puting up other code and stop the resource code off mirc.exe .

cool
Posted By: SladeKraven Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 11:30 AM
Na, I know it wasn't for me, I was just saying that even though Oriongods don't respect you, what epople say, that I do, as I agree with what you said. Sorry for making you think that you may of thought you was 'maybe wrong'. grin
Posted By: SladeKraven Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 11:38 AM
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But when you use the Remote , alianses, popups, dll , etc ...
you are not changing the code

I beg to differ mate, there might be some way to change Khaled's ctcp VERSION reply, but doing that is complete and utter selfish and disrespectful. I wont ever attempt to do that, and I hope everyone else wont do it either. mad
Posted By: ReCover Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 01:46 PM
I wonder why you can alter the Tray Icon,
Isn't it the same?
Posted By: SladeKraven Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 02:37 PM
Why do you want to resource hack mIRC6.1 because of the Tray icon?
Posted By: ReCover Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 02:57 PM
Yes, Because i want my own Tray
Posted By: SladeKraven Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 04:39 PM
You can change the icon.
File > Options > Display > Tray (6.03)
View > Options > Display > Tray (6.1)

Alternatively, you can type //tray -i $hfile=" Choose icon ".
This works in 6.03 and 6.1.
Posted By: codemastr Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 04:48 PM
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There is a huge difference in editing mIRC with a resource hacker and writing dll's to WORK with mIRC. Aye, resource hackers help you, but they don't do much, only let you change mostly everythng in mIRC.

We're not talking legality, we're talking respect. Why does it matter if I change the mIRC version to say "mIRC sucks" by using a resource hacker or a dll? Either way I get the same result. It's like saying does it matter if you're stabbed to death or shot to death? Either way you're dead. And NO a resource editor does NOT let you edit everything, it lets you edit RESOURCES. Resources only include things like text strings, dialogs, icons, images, etc. You can't change any of the actual coding, only the resources.
Posted By: codemastr Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 04:52 PM
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I agree with LocutusofBorg .
When you use the Resource Hancker to do someting with a program that don´t belong to you ( you are not the autor), you are modifying the code ( Ripping ).
But when you use the Remote , alianses, popups, dll , etc ...
you are not changing the code you are only puting up other code and stop the resource code off mirc.exe.

"ripping" is taking someone elses work and claiming it as your own. Please tell me how my wanting to display an XP style 32 bit icon for mIRC is ripping it? Resource editing does NOT have to cause theft. As I said though, if I write an mIRC script that will change the version reply (and in 6.1 it is very easy to make such a script), how is that any less disrespectful than doing it using a resource editor?
Posted By: SladeKraven Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 05:39 PM
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And NO a resource editor does NOT let you edit everything, it lets you edit RESOURCES.

Mostly everything, mIRC wouldn't be mIRC if all the dialogs, icons, text strings etc were to be changed. In name only, it'd be mIRC, possible not even that if they edit mIRC's GUI and basically state it was coded by who ever redistributes it (lets hope no one does that) but Oriongods did say that people on ms.org do modify mIRC and put it up for a script download..
Posted By: oriongods Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 05:43 PM
you heard the man... buy the way for mr. slade kraven that said "i will never try to change mirc version reply" thatz BS coz you can't know what will you do in the future. and for locustus of borg on "insulting" have you ever heard of FREEDOM OF SPEACH" ? - and for rest of you that just "respect khaled" by not changing some things on mirc (altho i know you do) stop being such a k-i-s-s-a-s-s - es,, i dont mind that almouts no1 is on my side but stop selling BS when you know that what you sell IS BS
Posted By: pheonix Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 06:21 PM
the only modified mirc ive seen that was on a site was: tools was ~tools~ instead crazy
Posted By: codemastr Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 06:31 PM
I'm sure they do, but the fact that _they_ are breaking the license and/or laws doesn't mean I and others should be prevented from doing things that would not. There are a signifigant number of deaths each year as a result of DUI (drinking and driving), yet, there are no laws against drinking and none against driving, only against doing both together. Same holds true here, if you are not breaking the license and/or laws, then I don't see what the problem is.

Oh and as a side note, in the US at one point alcohol was banned (to try and stop alcohol related crimes), that law didn't last very long and in fact, during prohibition, alcohol consumption and alcohol related crimes both rose signifigantly. Look to the past for solutions in the future. When you take away the rights of everyone to stop the crimes of a few, it almost never works well.
Posted By: LocutusofBorg Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 08:15 PM
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locustus of borg on "insulting" have you ever heard of FREEDOM OF SPEACH"

Surprise my friend -- freedom of speech ends when you start insulting people. In case you haven't heard - in most countries and I'm betting in yours too whichever it may be - that is not allowed, freedom of speech or not.

Also, BS comes out of the backend of a cow - which I am not. And what I said - every last word of it - is true.
Posted By: oriongods Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 08:56 PM
1. not your friend
2. in my country you can do w0t you like
3. maybe
Posted By: Raccoon Re: Useing Resouce Hacker mIRC 6.1 - 08/09/03 11:16 PM
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