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Posted By: NoScRiPtR

/Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 07:26 PM

Is there ANY way to turn this "feature" off? I regularly join several large channels on connect, and this
/Names list of every channel is causing me to disconnect for flooding. I've looked at the help files, and the only thing I can find is DDE Users (which was of no help to me). I have no script loaded that is using the Users (or any other part of DDE) so it has to be a 'feature' of mirc.
(Flood settings have no effect, either)

Posted By: codemastr

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 07:38 PM

the server automatically sends the names list to you, there is nothing you can do to prevent that other than not joining the channel.
Posted By: MonoSex

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 07:40 PM

Well, it's not a mIRC featrue, the server send it itself. Without it you wouldn't heve nicklist for channels grin
How about joining less channels or joining them manually? Or.. getting better internet connection?
Posted By: Collective

Re: /Names list when joining a channel *DELETED* - 08/05/03 07:47 PM

Post deleted by Collective
Posted By: codemastr

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 07:48 PM

That won't fix anything, mIRC is still going to receive the nicklist, it just won't display it.
Posted By: Collective

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 07:49 PM

I just reread the post, I thought he was pissed off about the names list being shown in status..


Bloody hell you reply fast..
Posted By: NoScRiPtR

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 08:44 PM

"I thought he was pissed off about the names list being shown in status.." um .. that would be an understatement.
As for the server sending this, why is it that 'other' chat clients do not display it in the server window? This is a mIRC-specific "feature" (displaying it in the status window). I just would like to shut it off. Maybe I need to email Khaled (like he's not getting thousands of emails).

Posted By: RoCk

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 08:49 PM

If you want to stop it from displaying in your status window, then use the example Collective posted ... oops too late, deleted
Posted By: ScatMan

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 08:51 PM

the problem here is the server, not khaled
i think the server send too much nicks to u and think its a flood. u just getting the /names., u don't flood him.
Posted By: NoScRiPtR

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 09:00 PM

When I get disconnected with the message "excess flood" it's flooding me .. server or not.
Posted By: RoCk

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 09:14 PM

Try /remote off and then reconnecting, if you don't get flooded off .. it's a script doing it. Like maybe a script doing a /who when you join a channel, or doing /who & /names when you join a channel.
Posted By: NoScRiPtR

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 09:25 PM

it's not a script .. I've already tried /remote off and /timers off
Posted By: ScatMan

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 09:30 PM

again, its a bug in the server, u are NOT flooding him u just sending the /names #channel
he floods u with the channels nicks, probably its a bug or something
Posted By: NoScRiPtR

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 09:35 PM

I hate to keep repeating myself, but mirc is the ONLY IRC chat client that displays these names in the status window ... and also the ONLY one that floods me with them.

"u are NOT flooding him" ??? him who?

Posted By: codemastr

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 09:35 PM

It's not a bug at all, the problem is you don't know what an "excess flood" is. It doesn't mean you are flooding the server, it means a command you executed is causing the server to flood you. Therefore it is working exactly as it is designed to work.
Posted By: NoScRiPtR

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 09:37 PM

and what command would that be? /join channels?
Posted By: codemastr

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 10:07 PM

Yes, that would be the command. Just like on some networks if you type /list you get flooded off, or on most networks if you type /who you get flooded off.
Posted By: NoScRiPtR

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 10:07 PM

um .. I don't know what an "excess flood" is ...
Evidently you don't know what "excess flood" is.
Excess flood is:

1. Too many messages sent to the server (or channel) in too short a period of time.

2. Too many messages sent from the server to me in too short a period of time.

As I've said before .. I have (and occasionally use) several "other" IRC clients (dIRC, pIRCh, TurboIRC, ViRC, XiRCON, and even *gasp* MSChat). I can connect to the EXACT server, and join the EXACT channels and not get disconnected for "excess flood". I have NO scripts in my mirc 6.03 to cause any flood other than joining channels and getting this /Names list (which NONE of the other clients does). Now tell me once again how I'm an idiot and don't know what "excess flood" is (or some other excuse for you not to have an answer for me). If you don't have anything constructive to say, kindly do not respond as it only wastes my time.



Posted By: codemastr

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 10:47 PM

I told you exactly what it is, if you want a more in depth analysis of what it is, it is triggered when your recvq (Receive Queue) becomes filled with excessive amounts of data that are being sent to you as a result of an action taken by you. If you don't like that definition, and you want to tell me I'm wrong, be my guest, but seeing as how I just looked at the source code for several IRCds and they all do exactly what I said, it would be like arguing that 2+2 != 4. It has NOTHING to do with you flooding the server, nothing at all. If you flood the server you will be killed with a Sendq exceeded message, NOT an excess flood message. Again, disagree with me if you want; but you are wrong.
Posted By: NoScRiPtR

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 10:54 PM

You have carefully avoided explaining why it is just mIRC that does this, and NONE of the other half dozen clients I use.
Tell me ... is this something the server does to the mIRC client and to NO OTHER? Or is it (as I said in my FIRST post) a "feature" of mIRC that could (and in my opinion SHOULD) be turned off.

Of course I do not expect any honest reply from you, you obviously haven't tried any other IRC clients to see for yourself.

As far as I'm concerned this thread is at an end due to lack of intelligent answers.

Posted By: codemastr

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 10:57 PM

Type /debug -p @debugwnd Then join the channel. You will see mIRC only sends about 3 lines of text, it is not caused by mIRC sending information. If you see more than maybe 3-4 lines of data being sent by mIRC, then the problem is likely that you have a script loaded causing the problem. For example, if you have a script that does /who #channel on a 1000 user channel it will flood you off the server. Try /remote off. And as for saying I've never used other IRC clients, I use mIRC, Klient, Bersirc, .IRC, virc, HydraIRC, Xchat, BitchX, and epic on almost a daily basis.
Posted By: Watchdog

Re: /Names list when joining a channel - 08/05/03 11:14 PM

As far as I'm concerned this thread is at an end due to lack of intelligent answers.

It was explained in explicit detail to you several times. Just because it's not the answer you want to hear does not make the answers wrong. If you are the one who is right then explain why I can join the top five channels on Webnet (About 3500 chatters at peak time) and not get disconnected? It must be something at your end. Now be a good boy and read your signature to yourself a few times.
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