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Posted By: evil_mumm_ra standard windows error closing mirc - 14/01/09 08:26 AM
ok, a bit of backstory. when i first got mirc, i had version 6.2, everything was good in the land of irc. then i updated, cause i figured it was about time and i figured new features would be handy, so i updated to 6.34 which was the newest at that time. from then on, mirc has decided to crash on me with the standard windows error. upon seeking advice from a fellow irc user, i updated to 6.35. nope, problem still exists. so i uninstalled it after backing up scripts and whatever settings i could, and reinstalled it. low and behold, the problem still exists! so i come to you guys, i'd like this problem solved, as i've been unable to go in the #idle room i usually idle in, as the disconnects cost me more time than i gain. as time has gone on, the frequency of this problem has increased, if i remember correctly, it happened 3 times on the 13th.


that is a picture of the error message, i'm not sure what other information you need, but if you ask, i'll get what you need. please help, this is so seriously annoying frown

oh, and if this is in the wrong spot, please move it, it's not really a connection issue as i'm connecting to servers just fine and everything so i figured here was the best spot.
Posted By: RoCk Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 14/01/09 12:12 PM

Try installing a clean copy (no scripts or DLLs) of 6.35 as there may be script/dll compatibility issues. If it doesn't crash after that then you know it's one of the scripts.
Posted By: evil_mumm_ra Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 14/01/09 10:44 PM
my scripts haven't changed since my v6.2

couldn't i just unload all the scripts instead and see if that helps?
Posted By: Wims Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 14/01/09 10:58 PM
Your problem is certainly a dll problem, if you try with a clean install, we're sure you don't forgot to unload something..
Posted By: RoCk Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 14/01/09 11:23 PM

Originally Posted By: evil_mumm_ra

my scripts haven't changed since my v6.2


That's exactly my point. If your scripts haven't changed then there is a change between mIRC v6.2 and mIRC v6.35 that's causing the incompatibility issue(s) between mIRC and your scripts and DLLs. If this is the case then your scripts and DLLs would need to be updated to be compatible with mIRC v6.35.
Posted By: evil_mumm_ra Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 15/01/09 12:45 AM
alright, i've unloaded all my scripts except my auto identify script, and one to count the number of lines in a channel. i figure both of those are basic enough that they aren't hurting anything, although if you suggest i unload those too, i'll unload everything.
Posted By: DJ_Sol Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 15/01/09 01:11 AM
Once you got mIRC not crashing, start loading the scripts one at a time until it crashes. Then you know what script it is.
Posted By: evil_mumm_ra Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 15/01/09 05:57 AM
yup, that was my plan. although it'll take a while to test everything like that, i figure if it hasn't tested in 2 days i'm good. i've got a lurking suspiction it's the AMIP alias, although that is triggered by me, and it doesn't happen when i type /mp3 to show my songs, or /wma <command> to control the player. that's really the only script that has anything to do with any other program. so i'll start by readding those things in a few days. if it's not that, i'll add the others starting with my most complicated ones.


AHA. even with all my scripts unloaded, it still got the error message.

so what's the new advice?
i noticed the error more when i clicked lots of links, was kicked a lot, or other various loads of activity. but then it also seemed to happen when i was just idling too, like i'd wake up and it had errored during the night.
Posted By: argv0 Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 15/01/09 08:31 AM
Are you using a WMP or Winamp plugin that sends messages to mIRC or something (via DDE or SendMessage)? There is one known to have problems with mIRC 6.35
Posted By: evil_mumm_ra Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 15/01/09 10:23 AM
i am, although i removed the aliases to control it from mirc. i'll disable it on winamp though, i forgot to disable it there. i'll let you know if it happens again after disabling it. it's AMIP 2.63

also, would help to know which one you are talking about, so i don't direct other people to it as i've had a few people ask how i do it, and i'd rather not direct them to one that is faulty with mirc.

although, looking at the AMIP site, there is v2.65 up, but the fixed bugs don't say anything about it crashing mirc. i've disabled mine though, so we'll see if it still happens.
Posted By: argv0 Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 16/01/09 02:02 AM
I have no idea which version, but there have been reports of freezing mIRC's that have been solved by specifically disabling winamp & WMP plugins that spoke to mIRC. I assume the problems with the plugins have been corrected (and the latest version of the plugin should work with the latest mIRC) though you should probably contact the authors of the plugin for more information.
Posted By: evil_mumm_ra Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 16/01/09 03:11 AM
alright, i'll look into it. it hasn't frozen since i disabled the plugin, but i haven't been doing anything on mirc but idling cause i was asleep. i'll contact the AMIP people tonight.

edit, it just happened with the AMIP plugin disabled. my scripts are still all unloaded too. so now i'm even more clueless as to what is the problem. anyone else have any guesses?

edit2, apparently my quit that time was "connection reset by peer" it used to be "broken pipe" when that happened. not sure when it changed, or why. but does that help at all?
Posted By: spling Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 16/01/09 04:42 AM
The "connection reset by peer" quit could be unrelated to your first problem.
Posted By: argv0 Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 16/01/09 04:45 AM
When you say "it", are you referring to mIRC crashing, or simply disconnecting?
Posted By: evil_mumm_ra Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 16/01/09 05:01 PM
crashing. all i see is that error message, which then closes my mirc, so i can't tell if it counts as a broken pipe or if i was peered.

on a side note, i just got the error message and mirc closed again right before this post, and apparently the quit message was broken pipe.
Posted By: argv0 Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 16/01/09 08:01 PM
Do you have any other plugins talking to mIRC? Is Winamp running at the time of the crash? The only thing I can suggest is to either close winamp completely, or a completely clean install of mIRC with all default settings to test-- there is no reason mIRC would crash randomly without outside influence; no reports of this exist.
Posted By: evil_mumm_ra Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 17/01/09 08:55 AM
winamp is not always running when it crashes. when i go to sleep, i stop my winamp from playing music, so it wouldn't be sending anything to mirc, but i don't have it set to do it automatically either. there isn't anything else communicating to mirc.

so, if i'm gonna do a completely clean install, how do i back up all my settings and everything properly? i'd rather not have to input everything manually after testing with everything default.
Posted By: argv0 Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 17/01/09 10:49 PM
Running and not playing are two separate things, if Winamp is running it could easily be communicating with mIRC even if it's not playing a song (though, granted, it's less likely).

You can copy your mIRC directory (type //run $mircdir in mIRC to see where it is) somewhere safe, but anytime you install mIRC it automatically performs a backup into the $mircdir\backup\ directory.
Posted By: evil_mumm_ra Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 17/01/09 11:43 PM
oh, well that's nifty. i guess i'll do that tomorrow then.

i'll let you know how it goes!
Posted By: evil_mumm_ra Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 19/01/09 10:41 AM
alright, i downloaded a new mirc install, and am running that now. although, i have an mirc folder in c:program files/mirc, as well as c:documents and settings/my name/application data/mirc my new copy of mirc grabbed the data from the application data folder, whereas when i uninstalled mirc, it uninstalled it from the program files one, and that's where the new one was installed. seemed weird, but i'm thinking it's normal. so i'll be keeping an eye on it, the only things i did to the new install was copied my configuration settings, and an auto identify script. i'm hoping all will go well.
Posted By: evil_mumm_ra Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 19/01/09 11:15 PM
erm, i'm assuming multiple posts are allowed, since i can't edit my above post with this response.

i reinstalled the mirc, and it still got the error, same as before. doesn't seem to have done anything different to it.
Posted By: RusselB Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 20/01/09 12:05 AM
The application data folder is now used by mIRC as a default location for the data, not the executable.

This was introduced to maintain harmony with systems running Windows XP and Vista where multiple users can have varying accounts and access.

Multiple posts are definetely allowed, as the forum restricts the amount of time allowed to edit a post. It's been a while since I ran into that situation, but I believe you have one hour.
Posted By: evil_mumm_ra Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 20/01/09 02:53 PM
so... what should be my next course of action to try and get mirc to stop erroring? cause it's incredibly annoying. i suppose i could just run an entirely clean installation of mirc, and not copy my configuration settings over, and just set up a few highlights as i need, and all that kind of stuff. i don't know where the problem lies with this, cause it's not my scripts or anything like that as far as i've seen, those were all disabled and such and it still happened.
Posted By: Wims Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 20/01/09 06:05 PM
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what should be my next course of action to try and get mirc to stop erroring? cause it's incredibly annoying. i suppose i could just run an entirely clean installation of mirc,

Have you tried this alternative ? Install a clean mirc 6.35 and then check, I'm sure mirc will not crash.
Posted By: evil_mumm_ra Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 20/01/09 10:26 PM
i uninstalled my last mirc, then redownloaded the installation files, reinstalled it, and just copied the configuration settings over cause i find the default to be ugly, and i wanted my highlights and stuff. that's all i've done with the mirc i'm on now.
Posted By: Wims Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 20/01/09 10:57 PM
A clean install means that you just install mIRC and use it as it is, no script loaded or dll etc...
Use a real clean install of mIRC 6.35.
Posted By: evil_mumm_ra Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 21/01/09 01:47 AM
alright, will do. i didn't load any of my scripts this past time. can i still add my highlights and stuff manually?
Posted By: Wims Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 21/01/09 01:55 AM
The only thing you can do is change the options that mirc provided, like the highlight part if you want.
Posted By: evil_mumm_ra Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 21/01/09 07:13 AM
that's all i did last time i reinstalled it, i just copied the configuration settings over, for the server list, favorites, colors, highlights, etc. it was all in that same file. so far i'm good, but the default colors really suck, lol. maximized irc on a 22" screen with a white background burns the eyes, but i'm trying to keep the configuration settings as minimal as possible right now.
Posted By: RusselB Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 21/01/09 07:21 AM
After you've run mIRC with just the default settings for a bit, to determine if the problem reoccurs with a clean version, then I would suggest altering your settings one at a time and wait for a bit between changes to see if the problem re-occurs.

Eventually you will either have mIRC running without the problem and all of your settings and scripts loaded, or you will have hit a point where the problem re-occurs, in which case, you will have more detailed information to give us in regards to the change that caused the problem to re-occur.

Regarding the colours sucking, that's a matter of personal preference. I run mIRC maximized on a 24" wide-screen with default colours, and I have no problems with them.
Posted By: evil_mumm_ra Re: standard windows error closing mirc - 21/01/09 12:33 PM
could just be my brightness or something too, but yeah, my plan was to slowly reset my settings, which will probably take a while, but i need my mirc to be stable. seems good so far, all i've done with it is set a few basic highlights, with the default beep, and taken off the line thing that goes across the screen, and stopped it from minimizing to the tray, i hate the line and minimizing to the tray >.>
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