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Posted By: daznchar

downloads and usernames - 18/05/05 04:58 PM

hey all,
can any help as sometimes when my connection drops with mirc i rejoin and get qued because i changed my nick?
also when ive done this how can i say that i only need 5% to finish the download!
i just dont know what to type in when my connection resets,to ask for the last part of file?
yes i am quite new so any help would be much app!
cheers gtiguy.
Posted By: raZOR

Re: downloads and usernames - 18/05/05 08:27 PM

mirc is not file sharing program

mirc is for CHAT and CHAT only
Posted By: DaveC

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 08:39 AM

Dont talk rubbish, it just makes them know your lying, of course mirc can be used for filesharing it is after all isnt it.

We dont help with using mirc for for illegal file sharing, and mirc isnt only used for chat.
Posted By: SladeKraven

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 12:33 PM

If mIRC was used for just chat we would not be able to code. frown We'd have to try and rebuild the mIRC scripting language somehow. mad

-Andy
Posted By: Darkmnm

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 12:34 PM

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mirc is not file sharing program

mirc is for CHAT and CHAT only


That statement makes you look ignorant. Of course mIRC can and is used as a filesharing program. Unfortunitely it is used incorrectly 99% of the time as is in this case where he is trying to download movies. When someone comes on the forums and mentions anything about being able to recieve a file from someone over IRC using mIRC everyone is quick to assume they are using it to aquire illegal programs and such but what if the person is simply doing things in the manner in which mIRC's filesharing utilties were ment to be used. Maybe he is trying to download a skateboarding movie or a home movie from a friend or family member over the internet via IRC. This is one of the reasons mIRC has filesharing capablities. Instead of assuming the worse how about assuming the best and giving some people the benifit of the dought. I think that the mirc.com forum is one of the best forums on the internet bar-none but when this subject arises I get a little irritated and the assumptions that everyone makes and basically calls everyone that asks about the filesharing utiltiy a thief. How would you feel if you went into a store and picked up a playboy magizine and everyone in there assumed you were a pervert or a menace to society?
Posted By: SladeKraven

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 12:43 PM

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How would you feel if you went into a store and picked up a playboy magizine and everyone in there assumed you were a pervert or a menace to society?


At the end of the day dude, if you feel that is the best way to go about things then more power to them, although what your saying I've seen a few weeks back, the person who purchased the item was in his 60's and I know him personally because his grandson went to the course I studied at, everyone took the rise out of his grandson. If you get tormented for buying it; it isn't shameful, sticks and stones blah blah. And besides, I'd rather see someone buy the stuff rather than them download pornographic files via mIRC.
Posted By: mIRCManiac

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 12:46 PM

smile
Posted By: Darkmnm

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 12:51 PM

SladeKraven I think you missed my point. I was using that as an example of people assuming the worst in people.
Posted By: SladeKraven

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 12:58 PM

Nope, I understood and I agree, I thought I wrote 'I agree' in my last post, seems I didn't, ow well. I must admit I assume the worst in users on here that need help with downloading, but that is because they're not specific about what they're downloading. Maybe if they said, "my childs first steps" (using as an example) would keep timing out I'd try and help but it's all guess work from then on and downhill.

-Andy
Posted By: Darkmnm

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 01:04 PM

I agree, I believe he is using it in a manner it wasn't ment to be used by the "que" statment he used. If you were recieving a file from a friend or family member then you shouldn't be sitting in que.
Posted By: SladeKraven

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 01:11 PM

If only they'd do a search and take the time to read the sticky thread about file sharing, it seems some people read it then post anyway hopin gour views on illegal file sharing would change, heh. If they had a very huge family who's been using IRC for a very long time then I think they'd be in a queue then, but it's doubtful.. smile

-Andy
Posted By: Mentality

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 01:27 PM

As has been said before, the assumption is made due to the fact that 90% of people who ask about "downloading" on this forum are doing it because they've heard from a friend that mIRC is the next wonderful file sharing program.

I think in the few years I've been here, I've probably seen 5-6 threads where people have replied saying "I wasn't trying to share illegal files", compared to the god-knows-how-many threads where there is a) no reply (I wonder what THEY were doing), or b) "Ok, sorry".

If people would be specific in their questions, time would be saved. Most of the time though they are not specific because a lot of the people don't even realise mIRC is anything but a file sharing program, so they just assume people know what they are talking about. It's the age old problem that people in general are lazy and cannot be bothered to read anything, even the front page of the site!

Regards,
Posted By: DaveC

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 01:51 PM

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How would you feel if you went into a store and picked up a playboy magizine and everyone in there assumed you were a pervert or a menace to society?


Depends if i had remebered to wear my pants that day I guess.
Posted By: SladeKraven

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 01:54 PM

lol. smile
Posted By: mIRCManiac

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 01:55 PM

lol. I know it sucks when I'm minding my own business,
trying not to drool (so I don't have to buy it) on the babes in
the latest issue of playboy in the book store, and all the little
old ladies look at me like I'm a perv. I hate when that happens.
Posted By: Mary_juana

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 04:16 PM

That's why i use my mIRC to get pron from xdcc bots laugh

i genuinly paid for my mIRC so i don't see why i can't do what i want with it
Posted By: Mentality

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 04:29 PM

Oh, so you can also run people over with your car because you bought it?

Buying something doesn't give you the right to break the law. But seeing as people just LOVE to argue that point, there's a myriad of other reasons not to use mIRC as a file sharing program, but anyway, what are the chances of you taking any notice of any of that?

This board helps people with legitimate questions, we don't really care nor need to know who specifically uses mIRC as a file trading program, so please don't make pointless posts informing us.

Regards,
Posted By: SladeKraven

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 04:31 PM

In general:

The way I see it, anyone can download what they want but we don't offer the help because of the trojans etc, mIRC shouldn't be held responsible, the user is telling mIRC to download hazardous/malicious files mIRC doesn't think to itself, "gee, I want this file it might do me some good, I'll automatically download it and hope the machine I'm running on doesn't muck up". I know I wouldn't want to be respsonsible for newbies downloading virii and then coming back and complaining to me that their machine is switching itself off and other stuff. It is against the law, we wont help them break the law, but it's their choice if they want to get in deep. We can't truly stop them, although we can do our part by not helping them with such issues.

-Andy
Posted By: Mary_juana

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 05:38 PM

You better inform all the other posters that leave useless information then, as for your point

Oh, so you can also run people over with your car because you bought it?

that was the most arrogant comparison i've seen ever, it doesn't even come close to what i said, it's a compter app, not something that every day life depends on, i agree with not helping users in illegal activities, but if they do so then that's up to them (like me) it's got to that point now that if it concerns so many people, then the filesharing option should be removed from mIRC all together.

That was my 2 cents, after all it's general discussion.
Posted By: Mentality

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 05:52 PM

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You better inform all the other posters that leave useless information then


I do.

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that was the most arrogant comparison i've seen ever


I fail to see how that was arrogant.

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it's up to them


If you believe the law can be taken into your own hands, lord help you.

This is going nowhere \o_

Regards,
Posted By: mIRCManiac

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 06:01 PM

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then the filesharing option should be removed from mIRC all together.


I disagree with that and I would hope it would never happen.
I agree that people are too quickly labled a thief on these
boards if they even mention file sharing, but in most instances
it is true even if the proof is not there. Like the original post
in this thread, he may not have come right out and said he
was downloading movies or music or anything, but he used
the word "qued" which raises a red flag with me that
maybe I shouldn't help this person. I don't think anyone should
be made to disclose the content of the files they're downloading
or sharing to get help. If they don't actually say they're
swapping copyrighted material, and they haven't used any
red flag words then they should be helped rather than be
labled a thief simply because they need help with file transfers.
On the other hand, if they're not going to help then they
should do just that, don't help. Instead of posting a
message stating why it is that they will not help, why not
just ignore the thread?
Posted By: Mary_juana

Re: downloads and usernames - 19/05/05 06:34 PM

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I fail to see how that was arrogant.


Like i said, there's no comparison between the 2

just because people download a few mp3's/videos here and there doesn't make them take the law into their own hands, this debate could go on to the fact it's illegal to record from the Tv, or the Radio, but i'm sure you've never done that have you? grin
Posted By: DaveC

Re: downloads and usernames - 20/05/05 07:35 AM

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This board helps people with legitimate questions, we don't really care nor need to know who specifically uses mIRC as a file trading program, so please don't make pointless posts informing us.


Dont worry I dont use mirc for filesharing, im to selfish for that, i just leech of others and keep it all for myself. No Sharing or trading here! <grin>

Come On its general chat!
Posted By: The_Game

Re: downloads and usernames - 20/05/05 04:52 PM

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just because people download a few mp3's/videos here and there doesn't make them take the law into their own hands,


Actually, If i don't get my receipt from iTunes I tend to get disgruntled and end up writing them nasty emails until i get one smile
Posted By: tidy_trax

Re: downloads and usernames - 20/05/05 09:37 PM

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Like i said, there's no comparison between the 2


Of course there is.

You think you can do whatever you want because you paid for a piece of software, so why can't you do the same with a car, weapon or anything else you've bought? You can't because the law applies to you too, not just everybody else.
Posted By: Mary_juana

Re: downloads and usernames - 21/05/05 12:24 AM

How can you compare a serious injury or fatality to someone downloading 100 illegal thingsone a machine an hour? (example)
Posted By: DaveC

Re: downloads and usernames - 21/05/05 12:34 AM

look up and you see how he can.
Most people look for the thinner edge of the wedge when striffing to proove there point (i know i do). The analogy was the same tho, both are brought, both can be used for something wrong, both can cause pain or loss to others, although one by a far more direct method.

Its when someone uses something that doesnt connect that razzes me, like "i download files i need for school" reply "so your saying its ok to pirate if its for school" im like "errrr no i didnt say that"
Posted By: clutz1572

Re: downloads and usernames - 22/05/05 03:51 AM

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this debate could go on to the fact it's illegal to record from the Tv, or the Radio, but i'm sure you've never done that have you?


actually, those examples it is not illegal to record from those types of media becuase they are considerd public access. anyways, i am in full agreement with two things in this thread.

1. the fact that too many people prematurely judge others, not just here but on all the boards whenever anything about fileserving (especially xdcc) issues/questions come up,people assume the poster is in violation of some copywright. if you don't want to assist then don't...

2.) these types of threads are old hat and never go anywhere.

and as a sidenote i forget now who had mentioned this but asking the poster about the content of the material that thier transferimg/receiving is really nobodys business imo. also, although understand that there are some keys words/phrases that will indicate and triger " RED FLAGS " to some, in those cases just don't respond if bothers you. because i don't know about anyone else but, as for me i get tired of scanning through useless posts/replies.

sorry, but i had to put my 2 cents worth in.
Posted By: LostServ

Re: downloads and usernames - 22/05/05 04:29 AM

Mary_juana your just like my 12 year old sister, she fails to see a point being made with something totally different from the 'mistake'. Just because you buy something does not give you the right to break the law with it, as a few people have said more than once already. Grow up, get a job and obatin it the right way.

Someone should lock this thread, it's going nowhere.
Posted By: Mentality

Re: downloads and usernames - 22/05/05 01:00 PM

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and as a sidenote i forget now who had mentioned this but asking the poster about the content of the material that thier transferimg/receiving is really nobodys business imo.


Asking on our boards? Then it's our business, atleast it is as we have a rule about helping with warez.

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just don't respond if bothers you


On the contrary, if users don't like the rules we have here, which are few and fair, then they shouldn't post in the first place.

I agree that this thread is going nowhere, like every other thread that people decide to ruin by arguing about it.

Regards,
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