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are people allowed to post this kind of stuff?

Posted By: MTec89

are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? - 07/09/04 12:32 AM

are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? http://forum.rrjeta.net/viewtopic.php?p=68
Posted By: zack

Re: are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? - 07/09/04 12:55 AM

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I'm not creating a patch for this because if you haven't got basic hex editing skills you don't deserve the right to remove the reply anyway smile


That makes me sick right there.
Posted By: MTec89

Re: are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? - 07/09/04 12:58 AM

who doesnt have basic hex editing skills?
Posted By: zack

Re: are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? - 07/09/04 12:59 AM

I meant that he thinks that people who have hex skills have the right to play with the exe.

This is from his website, which answers a lot of questions:

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Well, I'm 14 yrs old and I live in Prishtina. I love computers and programming. I do Visual Basic, but I am learning C/C++ too. C++ ownz tha world. My msn addy is theb@ssreflex.net but for e-mails, bassreflex_mail@hotmail.com smile
Posted By: MTec89

Re: are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? - 07/09/04 01:05 AM

well i admit, i did change the mIRC icon with the XP one found on MS.org a while back when it was released
Posted By: tidy_trax

Re: are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? - 07/09/04 01:10 AM

I don't think khaled cares what you do with it as long as it's for personal use, except things that affect other people, like changing the version reply.
Posted By: MTec89

Re: are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? - 07/09/04 01:11 AM

yeah i dont really see the point of that, but i do like to see the better looking mirc icon.
Posted By: nalAAlan

Re: are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? - 07/09/04 01:49 AM

What do you mean, it's the internet...
Posted By: kodi403

Re: are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? - 07/09/04 05:37 PM

The instrcuctions that show how to make the needed modficiations of mirc.exe in order to change the mIRC version do not break any of the "rules" set forth by the license agreement.
If you read carefully, the license agreement states the following:

The mIRC distribution install file may not be distributed as a part of any package, and may not have files added to it or removed from it, and none of its contents may be modified, decompiled, or reverse engineered.

Pay attention to the part that says: The mIRC distribution install file. The file mirc.exe is NOT the distribution install file. I think that everybody agrees on this. No "rules" that are stated in the license agreement say anything that prohibits modifing the mirc.exe file.

I hope that this will explain a number of the things to a lot of people who were not sure of the nature of such a post.

Thanks for reading this smile
Posted By: tidy_trax

Re: are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? - 07/09/04 05:43 PM

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The mIRC distribution install file may not be distributed as a part of any package, and may not have files added to it or removed from it, and none of its contents may be modified, decompiled, or reverse engineered.


mIRC.exe is one of the installer files contents, and thus cannot be modified.
Posted By: MTec89

Re: are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? - 07/09/04 07:21 PM

well i know the crc check is only there to stop viruses and etc, mirc is pretty well known and its going toi be hard to pass it off as your own program is thats why you edited it, but my reason is just for the program icon, and thats not really a bad thing, alteast how i see it
Posted By: kodi403

Re: are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? - 07/09/04 07:42 PM

tidy_trax,

Thanks for pointing that one out. I should've read that paragraph a little bit more carefully.
Posted By: electrik

Re: are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? - 08/09/04 04:08 AM

This is in response to everyone. You can modify the mirc.exe however you want legally. You just cannot distribute a modified mirc.exe or install file legally.
Posted By: nalAAlan

Re: are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? - 08/09/04 04:21 AM

This is also in response to everyone.
Why do you care if it is legal? Are you going to be sued by Khaled? It doesn't really matter. Even if Khaled sued, which he won't, do you think he would win? I mean, can't you just delete the file and say it was never there?
Posted By: KingTomato

Re: are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? - 08/09/04 04:46 AM

You must not know about how a harddrive stores information wink Even though it's "Deleted", it's still there. How do you think information retrieval companies stay in business? wink

Regardless, why would you want to change such things as a crc, or version. I mean give credit where it's due.
Posted By: Armada

Re: are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? - 08/09/04 05:49 AM

I made the heavens and the earth
I made water
I made animals
I made man
I rested
See how ridicoulous that sounds? Trying to edit mirc and make it "your own" is just as dumb
Posted By: PastMaster

Re: are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? - 08/09/04 01:48 PM

No you can't. The actual lines are:

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mIRC may only be distributed as the original distribution install file as distributed by mIRC Co. Ltd. The mIRC distribution install file may not be distributed as a part of any package, and may not have files added to it or removed from it, and none of its contents may be modified, decompiled, or reverse engineered.


While the IMPLICATION is that the ban on reverse engineering only applies to distributed copies, this is not explicitly stated, and therefore reverse engineering is prohibited under any circumstances. The sentence will always be taken as meaning "None of the contents of the mIRC distribution install file may be modified, decompiled or reverse engineered".

It is important to understand that paragraphing makes no difference to legal interpretation unless there is specific reference in a contract to how paragraphs should be treated.

PM
Who used to spend too much time writing contracts.
Posted By: MTec89

Re: are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? - 11/09/04 03:17 AM

ahahahaa

thye took that post down wink *notes job well done*
Posted By: KingTomato

Re: are people allowed to post this kind of stuff? - 11/09/04 07:25 PM

I'm not sure I get it... Are you agreeing or arguing with me? You mirrored my viewpoint, but replied to my post.
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