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#66699 - 06/01/04 08:19 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Registered: 01/06/03
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I'm aware of that, nevertheless, I won't be a part of contributing to it, which is why I get a little ratty when people start having a go at me about lecturing others using mIRC for file trading as if I'm somehow in the wrong.

Anyway, that's my opinion on this thread summed up.

Happy chatting!

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#66700 - 06/01/04 08:23 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Fjord artisan

Registered: 22/10/03
Posts: 273
You are in the wrong, mIRC is whatever the user
makes of it .. be it chatting, serving files, an
alarm clock, reminder, calculator, whatever .. or
all of the above. Not only just what uses you
find to be acceptable for it.


Edited by EVH (06/01/04 10:21 PM)

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#66701 - 06/01/04 08:28 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Planetary brain

Registered: 01/06/03
Posts: 5024
Loc: London, England
Nope...Khaled has already voiced his dislike for people using mIRC as a file sharing program, and so as the author doesn't like it, it's not right. Furthermore, IRC does mean Internet Relay Chat and mIRC is a chat program, which is not a subjective statement, it's fact.

Edit: Also, if your last post was true, networks would not be banning the action and this Forum would be helping with it, rather than not.

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#66702 - 06/01/04 08:29 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Hoopy frood

Registered: 02/11/03
Posts: 2327
just because khaled doesn't like it also doesn't mean it's wrong, DCC is there, people WILL use it.
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#66703 - 06/01/04 08:31 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Fjord artisan

Registered: 22/10/03
Posts: 273
I couldn't care less what Khaled likes or dislikes,
if he's going to develop and release this product
with all these capabilities that are clearly for uses
beyond chatting, then he has to expect it to be
used for reasons beyond chatting.

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#66704 - 06/01/04 08:32 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Planetary brain

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Posts: 5024
Loc: London, England
Just because something IS there doesn't mean using it for an illegal action makes it anymore ok. Viruses are there to be spread, it doesn't mean it's ok for people to do so.

DCC was put there (as Khaled has also said) for trading pictures or wav files etc, not for the illegal way in which people use it nowadays.

People always abuse things and simply couldn't care less about how others feel about it.

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#66705 - 06/01/04 08:34 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Planetary brain

Registered: 01/06/03
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Loc: London, England
"People always abuse things and simply couldn't care less about how others feel about it."

You are clearly one of those people smile

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#66706 - 06/01/04 08:42 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Hoopy frood

Registered: 02/11/03
Posts: 2327
that's like saying, "here's a cigarette and a lighter, but don't smoke it... put it in a frame on your wall"
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#66707 - 06/01/04 08:48 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Planetary brain

Registered: 01/06/03
Posts: 5024
Loc: London, England
Not really...the whole purpose of a cigarette is to smoke it. The purpose of mIRC is not to mass file trade (nor is it advised to put in a frame on your wall!)

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#66708 - 06/01/04 08:52 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Hoopy frood

Registered: 02/11/03
Posts: 2327
"here's DCC, dont send mp3's, only send pictures of yourself!"
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#66709 - 06/01/04 08:52 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Fjord artisan

Registered: 22/10/03
Posts: 273
No, I'm saying that it doesn't matter if he likes
or dislikes how people are using mIRC. If he
dislikes how people are using DCC, then he
should remove it .. but also be prepared for
for the popularity of mIRC to take a nosedive
and another client will take its place. Many
would just script around it using sockets &
custom windows and $findfile and blah blah
blah, all of which have nothing to do with chatting.


Edited by EVH (06/01/04 08:55 PM)

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#66710 - 06/01/04 08:58 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Planetary brain

Registered: 01/06/03
Posts: 5024
Loc: London, England
*runs around in a circle really fast*

Sending pictures (etc) is what it is meant for - the fact that people DO mass file trade with it is undeniable, the fact that using it for that is abusive is equally undeniable and that is what I am saying. It's abused. People don't care that they abuse it. Instead of blaming abusive people, others expect the innocent to suffer from their actions and Khaled to remove the feature...heh.

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#66711 - 06/01/04 08:59 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Loc: London, England
"others expect the innocent to suffer from their actions and Khaled to remove the feature...heh."

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#66712 - 06/01/04 09:01 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Registered: 22/10/03
Posts: 273
Quote:
and Khaled to remove the feature


... or, he could just do nothing at all, for it
is not his problem, no more than it would
be General Motors problem that people use
their cars for illegal purposes.

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#66713 - 06/01/04 09:11 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Planetary brain

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I'm sure that's what he fully intends to do until such time as something practical can be implemented to prevent it...which is likely to be never really.

Nevertheless, that's got nothing to do with it, the point is the DCC feature is abused every time it is used as part of mass file trading, plus it's illegal, plus it contributes to the spreading of viruses. I do not and will not contribute to something like that, and I'm glad these Forums don't (except when someone insists upon going against the guidelines clearly set out).

Anyway, I think I've repeated myself enough now hehe - thanks for not resorting to throwing cuss words at me this time *G*

Happy chatting! smile

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#66714 - 06/01/04 09:11 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Registered: 18/01/03
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but general motors does not help criminals who want to build in bombs in their cars either :-]
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#66715 - 06/01/04 09:14 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Fjord artisan

Registered: 22/10/03
Posts: 273
Nobody is asking you to contribute anything,
in fact, I'm sure most get tired of your hot
air and wish you would just shut up.

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#66716 - 06/01/04 09:16 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Planetary brain

Registered: 01/06/03
Posts: 5024
Loc: London, England
Ah, shame you couldn't last the whole thread smile

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#66717 - 06/01/04 09:17 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Fjord artisan

Registered: 22/10/03
Posts: 273
This is true .. but do you see them taking steps
to ensure that people don't use their products for
illegal purposes ? No. That's not their problem.
That's a problem for the law to solve. Their
job is to make sure the criminal thinks of purchasing
their product again after their car is destroyed by
the illegal act they just perpetrated.


Edited by EVH (06/01/04 09:19 PM)

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#66718 - 06/01/04 09:18 PM Re: File sharring on IRC
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Hoopy frood

Registered: 02/11/03
Posts: 2327
Quote:
Sending pictures (etc) is what it is meant for

wrong again... it's meant for sending and receiving files.
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