Forums Feature Suggestions AMD 64 Version

I was wonding if a 64 bit verion of the software was in the works for the AMD 64. Some of us are looking for software we can use with the new 64's. This seems like mirc could be a good project to be ported, since it could probably be done in one or 2 days from my understanding of the process. But this seems the next step since the first version was 16 bit, then 32, it is only logical that a 64 bit version be introduced.

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i highly doubt u will see khaled making a mirc version simply based on the fact AMD has a 64 bit processor, when there are more around than just one then id say its inevitable, but it isnt going to happen anytime soon, i mean the last major coding change done was done so in alil over a year not a couple days, so your understanding isnt really much. Khaled will port it to 64 when and if he feels like, thats about all one can say for any coding changes modifications or bugfixes hes done in the past.

indeed, mIRC didn't immediatly goto 32 when windows 98 was available.

Its funny. Most poeple went out and bought the new amd thinking "faster, this will improve my performace a lot." without even realising the average home user doesn't do enything that would even benefit from the architecture. Hope you're not one of those ppl, jb.

Yesh, I wouldn't buy a 64bit processor until Windows 64 is on its second service-pack and other hardware manufacturers have incorporated 64bit technology into their peripherals. What's the point unless your video card sound card and harddrives actually benifit from this technology? The 64bit motherboards are still primarily 32bit!

Anyway, as far as mIRC is concerned... you need a 64bit operating system before you can write 64bit software. I understand Windows Longhorn is slated for release in 2005, so you might hold your breath for 2006-2007.

- Raccoon

Where to begin...

jb_008:
What would be the benefit of a 64bit version of mIRC? As I see it, AMD's 64bit processors already work just fine with 32bit software, and typically run it faster than an equivalent 32bit processor. Seeing as 64bit processors are the top end of the processor market it hardly seems worth splitting the development of mIRC so soon for no reason beyond a meagre speed boost for systems which are already far beyond what is required to make mIRC run smoothly. Until there is some benefit in 64bit computing tha simply isn't available to 32bit processing I personally see no need for a program like mIRC to make the transition. Of course I don't speak for the development of mIRC, but I don't see how or why anyone else could come to a different conclusion at present.


KingTomato:

There was a 32bit version of mIRC years before Windows 98 was released, did you forget Windows 95 existed? Even then, it seems there's been a 32bit version of mIRC right from Windows 95's release.



Actually the 64bit architecture provides speed increases over 32bit processors of comparable GHz in virtually all computer uses. It's nothing like twice as fast as some people were foolishly claiming not so long ago, but there is a significant difference.


Raccoon:
Sound card, GPU, hard drive, none of that has any relevance to what a 64bit processor can do.

No, but a 64bit processor has relevance to what a Sound card, GPU, harddrive and other peripherals can do. Wait for these things to require a 64bit processor to run efficiently (or even at all) and then you have a reason to buy a 64bit CPU.

Of course it takes a market of people showing immediate interest in 64bit technology before the rest of the industry gets off its keester, but for me, I'll wait until everything is pure 64bit.

- Raccoon
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But there is Windows XP 64

no not fully, there isnt a windows xp 64 bit version, altho it can already run on a 64bit setup. maybe you should look things up before speculating. As i already stated mirc will not and should not go to a 64bit development atleast until there is a true 64bit OS, for many reasons, altho xp will operate under 64bit it has not got a full integrationg for it, mainly because it was developed for 32bit systems. give things alil time, what ppl are asking now is just jumping before looking, and why should the whole of the mirc community suffer for ill fated attempts on making it such.

I agree with you, and I think we should all really look at what were talking about, WHY make to versions of a program when keeping one functioning as everyone wants it is hard enough. I also wonder about the need for a 64bit version, i mean how much faster would it run? almost everything in mirc is dependent on interaction with a server thats not exactly going at lightspeed itself. Im sure although 32bit apps are true multitasking that mirc likely yeilds alot of its processor slice anyway as its idling around 90% of the time as it is.
ok ok maybe a 64bit version wiould idle around 95% of the time, wow wow wooohooo lets get the 64bit version!

PS: if im incorrect in anything above, to bad im just saying thast its not really needed for the extra effort/confusion it would likely/possably bring.

- Oh dear, perhaps you should take your own advice? Being completely incorrect is something that happens and everyone can understand that, being snide at the same time just makes you look a fool.

thanks mafia, i knew there is 64bit xp.
and i didnt wanna say, that there is need for 64bit mirc. that was only a comment to the post, that there is no 64bit os.