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VERSION reply modification in 6.11 #54095 13/10/03 03:18 AM
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Hi guys, ive changed the /ctcp version reply before for scripting mIRC via basic hex editing and it seemed ok (with khaled's comment in the exe) .. but now in 6.11 any code modification results in a non working exe, and his comment doesnt appear to exist.

Does mIRC.exe now check the file checksum when launching for modifications ?
What is the official view on changing the exe now for a scripting purpose ?
And does anyone know how to make it work with 6.11 ?

Please note im trying to hard code the version reply, I know how to do this with basic scripting, but am trying to do so at a lower level.

Thanks

Re: VERSION reply modification in 6.11 #54096 13/10/03 05:58 AM
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What you want to do and have done is a violation of the copyrights and licensing agreement you accepted when installing mIRC. "with khaled's comment in the exe" doesn't make it right. For any and all scripting puposes, there is no reason whatsoever to remove the version reply.


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Re: VERSION reply modification in 6.11 #54097 13/10/03 07:08 AM
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No problem if the stance has changed, as I am assuming with that comment removed and sum checking added ... I will look towards development using another client.

Re: VERSION reply modification in 6.11 #54098 13/10/03 07:20 AM
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The stance hasn't changed. It has always been a violation to modify the exe file, especially if you wanna distribute it (and the "development" suggests that you do intend to distribute it). Unless you have open-source software, reverse engineering or hex editing program files is always against a licensing agreement.


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Re: VERSION reply modification in 6.11 #54099 13/10/03 10:37 AM
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You never should have to change the version reply. Simply scripting a short CTCP version reply should suffice.


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Re: VERSION reply modification in 6.11 #54100 13/10/03 02:16 PM
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http://www.mircscripts.org/comments.php?id=169

I don't believe this method is illegal.


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Re: VERSION reply modification in 6.11 #54101 13/10/03 02:20 PM
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Anything that alters the program itself or the intended information its supposed to display is illegal..


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Re: VERSION reply modification in 6.11 #54103 14/10/03 02:15 AM
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Just to let you know, I havent distributed anything ... I dont plan to, all im trying to do is change the reply due to a security stand point. This is just for my personal use.

No need to go thinking im evil, or that im trying to take credit from khaled.
He is a champion in all regards. I just wish it were easier to experiment with some facets of mirc.

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in this case with all the people sticking with 6.03, it wouldnt be a bad idea to change the version reply....
all(most) the lamers that use the DCC exploit check the version reply before using it, so they dont caught for nothing.
changing the version reply to 6.12 might help a bit.


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Re: VERSION reply modification in 6.11 #54105 14/10/03 02:20 AM
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I never implied you were eveil, I'm stating that if you want a fix, either upgrade or use the fix that is circulating around the boards. Don't stoop to illegal means so you can be protected.


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Re: VERSION reply modification in 6.11 #54106 14/10/03 02:22 AM
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First off, again--use the patch.

Secondly, they aren't going to "version you first" You might as well /amsg saying your trying to exploit people by doing that. "Dont mind me, im just versioning you for no reason--wasn't planning on exploiting you though"


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Re: VERSION reply modification in 6.11 #54107 14/10/03 06:50 AM
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My friend, you would be surprised what some people have done.

On join .... ctcp version, and exploit all replies mIRC 6 - 6.11

BTW: I tried that DLL it seemed to change the reply locally but others then get no reply from me =(

I guess there isnt much more I can try.
Unless there is a scripting method to halt the reply, and im not aware of any.

Thanks anyhow.

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Quote:
change the reply due to a security stand point


Lame excuse that doesn't hold up. If you don't want people to know you're using mirc, get another IRC client. If you don't want people to know you're using 6.10 cause of the exploit, get 6.12.

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I just wish it were easier to experiment with some facets of mirc.


It is very easy. The only reason the version reply won't lend itself for that is that Khaled deliberately disabled possibiliities to remove it. That tells me it is his explicit wish that the version reply remains intact (as also stated in the helpfile), so just leave it alone


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Re: VERSION reply modification in 6.11 #54109 14/10/03 08:28 AM
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I am sure that DLL works. Read the documentation.


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Re: VERSION reply modification in 6.11 #54110 14/10/03 12:56 PM
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check a recent post in the bug reports forum about version info ..... im sure that will work for u.


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Re: VERSION reply modification in 6.11 #54111 21/10/03 01:47 PM
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Hi
Why not to allow a "no reply" to the version ctcp like xchat?
One good idea for khaled. grin


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