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Re: mirc $isregister #53506 11/10/03 03:59 PM
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no, i don't want to check other user, the script should just check if the user of the script has registered his copy of mirc (local)

Re: mirc $isregister #53507 11/10/03 04:01 PM
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I personally still say it is a good idea, it can encourage people to register mIRC. If scripts disable functions if $isregistered == $expired (or whatever it is set to do), then perhaps people will decide to register mIRC. Of course someone could just modify the script, but my logic is, if you are using a premade script from someone else, you probably don't have the skills to do that.

Re: mirc $isregister #53508 11/10/03 04:49 PM
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And I still maintain that it'll just encourage makers of scripts to quietly "register" people's copies of mIRC using illegal keys, unbenounced to them even. How cool would that be, to boast that your script "gets rid of that annoying nag screen".

if ( $registered == expired ) { registermirc Lame Script 411Y-0U2-B453-423B-310N-G2U5 }


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Re: mirc $isregister #53509 11/10/03 05:02 PM
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Umm I doubt that. Why? The people who would do that already do. They are the ones who distribute mirc.exe with their script and it uses a cracked key.

Re: mirc $isregister #53510 11/10/03 05:24 PM
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A process would have to install the "cracked key", so a script can't just be distributed which "uses it".

Logically such a script would check if mIRC is registered already first (legitimately) before hacking the registry to install their own. Such an identifier would only serve to streamline that effort and nothing else. Well no, it would also encourage people to be inventive and script ways to extract a user's registration info so they can find their real name (with relative ease). Such a function would definitely be in my remote-control trojan suite.

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Re: mirc $isregister #53511 11/10/03 05:30 PM
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Logically such a script would check if mIRC is registered already first (legitimately) before hacking the registry to install their own. Such an identifier would only serve to streamline that effort and nothing else. Well no, it would also encourage people to be inventive and script ways to extract a user's registration info so they can find their real name (with relative ease). Such a function would definitely be in my remote-control trojan suite.

If the process has the ability to install a cracked key, i.e. edit the registry, I think the process can just as easily check if the registry key already exists.

Re: mirc $isregister #53512 11/10/03 05:42 PM
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mIRC has always had the ability to /WHO a channel when one joins it, but people didn't start scripting this until the IAL came along and they suddenly felt compelled to use it.

Build $isregistered and they will come. Encouraged and motivated.


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Re: mirc $isregister #53513 11/10/03 05:44 PM
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true but how many networks now disable the /who ability to non ops? ive been to several.


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Re: mirc $isregister #53514 11/10/03 05:45 PM
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Wow, I wasn't aware of that.

Congrats on servers taking a stand.


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Re: mirc $isregister #53515 11/10/03 05:45 PM
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But stealing the serial number would be dependant on you knowing the registered person's register name, as the serial is generated according to the name used to register.

If $ifregistered doesn't display the name used to register, the number would be effectively useless, wouldn't it?

Re: mirc $isregister #53516 11/10/03 05:50 PM
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$isregistered doesn't have to do anything but return $true/ $false. This alone will encourage every scripter to some how encorporate it into their script, and find inventive ways of using it.. like reading the name from the registry using com calls.

Plain and simple, there is no useful purpose for such an identifier. Why not write an identifier $ishacked which returns $true/ $false if certain byte offsets are modified in the $mircexe? That would only be calling attention to something that really doesn't need attention called to.


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Re: mirc $isregister #53517 11/10/03 05:54 PM
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Plain and simple, there is no useful purpose for such an identifier. Why not write an identifier $ishacked which returns $true/ $false if certain byte offsets are modified in the $mircexe? That would only be calling attention to something that really doesn't need attention called to.


You say it has no purpose yet I've already given you a purpose. TO DISABLE FEATURES IN AN UNREGISTERED COPY.

Re: mirc $isregister #53518 11/10/03 05:57 PM
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hmm i feel sorry to make such a big discussion. Well i just only wanted to know the key in the registry (or if the identifier already exist).
I don't wanted to find a way how to crack it or other things (when i realy want to do something like that i would do it and not asking in main mirc board).
It should just stop using of unregistered version of mirc or well the main background i don't want that every lazy kiddie use my script.

that was all i want and i repeat "I don't want any illegal things"

Re: mirc $isregister #53519 11/10/03 05:59 PM
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I don't think he is accusing you of doing anything illegal, he is saying if $isregistered were added _other people_ would use it for illegal things.

Re: mirc $isregister #53520 11/10/03 06:06 PM
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I think it's a good idea, however I think a change to the registering process would be in order if it were to be incorporated.

I think that when the username and serial have been input, mIRC checks the serial against the name (as it does now), and then discards the username (or store it in some encrypted way or something). That way the username would be unavailable and the stealing of the serial number made pointless.

Also, this isn't addressed to you personally, codemastr. You're just at the bottom of the message list smile

Re: mirc $isregister #53521 11/10/03 06:06 PM
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but what about:
$com: using wshell.script or wscript.network for controling whole windows
/run: running a virus/trojan/dialer
sockopen,: downloading a virus/trojan/dialer
/write: writing vbs files
/bwrite: changing everything

and now please tell me what i could do illegal things with an identifier like $isregistered that i can't do with the aliases/identifier above

Re: mirc $isregister #53522 11/10/03 06:08 PM
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Raccoon, despite your "used for illegal purposes" stand you seem to be taking, how is $isregistered encouranging that? If people want to make mirc into a registered copy illegally, they can simply put in the key and not even check if its a valid version already. What does a script care if it is or isn't registered already. I doubt there are ones out there that have added the extra code needed to make a checksum of a non-registered version. "This version is registered, lets not apply the patch" Seriously, you think people cracking mirc put that much time and effort into it?


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Re: mirc $isregister #53523 11/10/03 06:24 PM
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Are you telling me a guy named 'l337h4x0r' who wrote a program called 'l33tcr4k' doesn't care if it is registered already? wink

Re: mirc $isregister #53524 11/10/03 06:26 PM
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somewhere along those lines, yea smirk

EDIT: Just another thing, that's ur second post I've notices with a lil smiley... the peer pressure is hitting you, isn't it? grin


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Re: mirc $isregister #53525 11/10/03 06:39 PM
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Actually yea, if $isregistered were added to the help file, script authors would go out of their way to encorporate it into their scripts, and thusly check before they crack so they don't piss off legitimatly registered users. I don't even know why I have to spell much out, it's a topic I rather not have to discuss period.

I bet $50 here and now that Khaled never adds it.


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