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#53361 - 10/10/03 09:53 PM 6.11 worse than 6.1?
codemastr Offline
Hoopy frood

Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 2809
Is it just me, or is 6.11 even worse than 6.1? It still has bugs, for example the "script editor" button on the toolbar still wasn't fixed, 99% of suggestions that were "claimed" to be added in 6.1 still aren't added (though the website still says that it addressed "most" requests), and NONE yes that's right NONE of the changes that we complained about in 6.1 were removed/made-optional, they all remain. But Khaled, you've out done yourself, I didn't think anything could be worse than 6.1 but I guess you just couldn't pass up an opportunity to prove me wrong...

Well seeing as how Khaled, in my opinion, no longer gives a damn about what the mIRC users want, guess it's time for me to start looking for a new client... Maybe if others do the same, he'll actually start listening to people again.

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#53362 - 10/10/03 09:58 PM Re: 6.11 worse than 6.1?
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Fjord artisan

Registered: 04/12/02
Posts: 329
Loc: The Netherlands
This posting is not even worth replying to.

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#53363 - 10/10/03 09:59 PM Re: 6.11 worse than 6.1?
codemastr Offline
Hoopy frood

Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 2809
Well then why did you?

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#53364 - 10/10/03 10:01 PM Re: 6.11 worse than 6.1?
DekuHaze Offline
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Registered: 28/06/03
Posts: 384
Rather than find another client, how about writing your own? I'd be happy to beta test it if you released it on Linux as well as Windoze laugh

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#53365 - 10/10/03 10:03 PM Re: 6.11 worse than 6.1?
codemastr Offline
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Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 2809
Because I don't have much free time or else I would.

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#53366 - 10/10/03 10:06 PM Re: 6.11 worse than 6.1?
DekuHaze Offline
Fjord artisan

Registered: 28/06/03
Posts: 384
Build atop of an existing one. Most of the work has been done for you that way. I'd love to have a 'lighter' graphical IRC client than xchat. And if you really wanted a challenge, you could try and make it mIRC script compat. wink

I say do it. Incorporate the features you want to see in a client smile

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#53367 - 10/10/03 10:16 PM Re: 6.11 worse than 6.1?
codemastr Offline
Hoopy frood

Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 2809
As I said, I don't have time. Plus I'm already looking at other clients and I already found a couple that I kinda like...

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#53368 - 10/10/03 10:18 PM Re: 6.11 worse than 6.1?
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Registered: 28/06/03
Posts: 384
Shame. Never mind smile

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#53369 - 10/10/03 10:22 PM Re: 6.11 worse than 6.1?
pheonix Offline
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Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 2265
no need to be so ignorant about it frown
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#53370 - 10/10/03 10:23 PM Re: 6.11 worse than 6.1?
codemastr Offline
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Registered: 12/12/02
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ignorant about what?

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#53371 - 10/10/03 10:24 PM Re: 6.11 worse than 6.1?
pheonix Offline
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Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 2265
your original post.
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#53372 - 10/10/03 10:27 PM Re: 6.11 worse than 6.1?
codemastr Offline
Hoopy frood

Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 2809
Sorry, I don't like spending good money on something that the author couldn't give a damn if were happy. So rather than remain an mIRC user (remember, if everyone says "that sucks" and continues to use it, nothing will change, think MS), I've decided the only way to get my point across is to not waste my time with mIRC. He doesn't care if I'm happy, why should I use his software? Like I said, if others do the same, maybe things will change. If not, well at least I'll be happy since I'll have a client where the author actually listens to people.

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#53373 - 10/10/03 10:30 PM Re: 6.11 worse than 6.1?
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Registered: 22/02/03
Posts: 3432
Loc: Sweden/Borlänge
Do as i did.. stick with the nice mIRC 6.03, the best version of mirc "so far", and i hope that Khaled will make a new version that will look like the older one cos it's nicer.. smile I dont know why everyone asking for "new" fetures", it's great the way it was.. smile
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#53374 - 10/10/03 10:32 PM Re: 6.11 worse than 6.1?
pheonix Offline
Hoopy frood

Registered: 06/05/03
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first person: id like <some feature!>

khaled adds it..

second person: id like <some feature removed!>

whats khaled to do?

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first person: id like <some feature!>

second person: that isnt a good idea because of <this, this and this>

whats khaled to do?

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first person: id like <some feature!>

second person: great idea!

khaled cant manage it/get it right

just a few reasons why he cant add everything people want..
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#53375 - 10/10/03 10:34 PM Re: 6.11 worse than 6.1?
codemastr Offline
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Registered: 12/12/02
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Yes I did stick with 6.03, and, I was hoping 6.11 would be the one with the "older style" but it wasn't, so I'm guessing, that means Khaled has no intention of changing it back. Not to mention I don't like the fact that I'm running 6.03, a version with numerous bugs. I don't intend to, when 6.5 comes out to be sitting around saying "I'll use 6.03 for one more release, and maybe 6.51 will change it back." If he was gonna change it back, my feeling is he would have done it in 6.11 since so many people complained.

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#53376 - 10/10/03 10:34 PM Re: 6.11 worse than 6.1?
pheonix Offline
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Registered: 06/05/03
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i prefer 6.1 cool
im aware of 'many bugs', but i still havent found a bug in something ive needed to use yet crazy
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#53377 - 10/10/03 10:36 PM Re: 6.11 worse than 6.1?
codemastr Offline
Hoopy frood

Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 2809
Who asked Khaled to redesign the mIRC toolbar?
Who asked Khaled to redesign the mIRC menus?
Who asked Khaled to redesign the options dialog?
Who asked Khaled to resize all the buttons?
Who asked Khaled to remove the "hide about" window?

I don't remember anyone asking for any of those. Also, what's wrong with optional things? mIRC has a "visual styles" section doesn't it? Why can't there be a "[ ] show grip bar on the toolbar" "[ ] show grip bar on the switchbar" etc.?

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#53378 - 10/10/03 10:39 PM Re: 6.11 worse than 6.1?
pheonix Offline
Hoopy frood

Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 2265
maybe he got bored of the old look and decided to make a new one?
he still might change it back, i dont think waiting 1 version for that is a sufficient amount of time to decide "he isnt changing it back"
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#53379 - 10/10/03 10:41 PM Re: 6.11 worse than 6.1?
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Registered: 22/02/03
Posts: 3432
Loc: Sweden/Borlänge
maybe a bug fix of the "older" style, then let ppl DL the style they like best? wink and i cant say i have found any "dangerus" bugs in 6.03, and what i feel its more stabile then the new version "6.1", when i tryed the new version i had 10x more connection reset by peer and other problems.. cant say about 6.11 tho, and wont be able to say cos i wont be using/testing it :tongue:
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#53380 - 10/10/03 10:52 PM Re: 6.11 worse than 6.1?
codemastr Offline
Hoopy frood

Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 2809
"There also was an irc:// link overflow, which has also been fixed..." that's from Krejt's post on 6.11. To me, that sounds as though if someone sets up an irc:// link just right, and you click it, it creates a buffer overflow. That sounds pretty serious to me.

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