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Re: mrc vs inf #53124 10/10/03 04:29 PM
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i dont care if anyone believes me:\


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Re: mrc vs inf #53125 10/10/03 04:42 PM
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Nope, you see right now I am sitting in a very boring class at school, one which I really don't feel like paying attention in. But, I can't leave, so I can spend all the time I want replying to your posts and still not be wasting time.

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Soon, are you going to make a post "THE WORLD IS FLAT" and then, when we show you pictures of the elliptical Earth will you just say "I don't care if anyone believes me, I know I'm right."? Because that's pretty much exactly what you're saying now...

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if .txts are faster or seem to be faster for me, then why should i have to prove it?
i didnt mean they're faster for everyone..
but if i said "the world is flat for me", it wouldnt make sense..


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Re: mrc vs inf #53128 10/10/03 05:28 PM
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We are not talking about YOU here, it's about time you got that into your brain. We are talking about programming in general, and the way code behaves. We do not talk about one-in-a-kazillion exceptions (which somehow seem to all focus on your computer). We are also not talking about what "seems to be", we are talking about what is. Please do everyone a favor and stop talking like what your computer does as if it is a standard for everyone's system, and if you wanna say what your system does, don't - no one wants to hear it since your system is obviously so different from anyone else's that not even basic programming laws apply, that your comments are not helping the discussion (then again, what discussion - a discussion requires arguments, which you fail to provide every single time).


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Re: mrc vs inf #53129 10/10/03 05:47 PM
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that your comments are not helping the discussion

neither does your excessive whining..
drop it.
i dont need to provide an argument because i have nothing to prove.
if .txts are faster on my system, HOW THE HELL should i know they aren't on yours?, OBVIOUSLY i would say they are faster, because i dont use YOUR computer, so i dont know how YOUR computer reacts.


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Re: mrc vs inf #53130 10/10/03 06:16 PM
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If you don't provide arguments, stop participating in a discussion.

If you only know what your system does, and don't know of programming in general, keep out of it.

If you don't care of people believe your statements, stop making them.

If you want people to stop whining about how you choose to participate in a discussion, then stop posting in it.

By now you should know that every time we get into programming issues you always resort to the same pointless argument when the other posters all say the exact opposite. Get over it.


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so just because the rules of programming says .txt and .mrc are the same speed, that means it must be true?
if you think that you're a fool:p


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so just because the rules of programming says .txt and .mrc are the same speed, that means it must be true?

Well... generally if something is a physical or logical rule then yes, it is true. But like I said, it's possible that .mrc is slower than .txt - it simply defies all logic if it does.

Could people just let up on the angry rant-posts? I can see this thread getting deleted very soon if people keep on posting as they are.


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Actually, yes it must. Computers are infernally stupid. They are like vulcans when logic is concerned. They cannot think for themselves. They do exactly as they are told. Also, ever computer task is a combination of extremely simple artihmatic. Therefor yes, when something is true on one system, provided nothing weird happens, it must be true on all systems. Same logic applies by saying that if something works one way on everyone's system, and the other way on your system, then you have a strange system, and your input in discussions is then pointless since no one can use it.

But I already said that before...

Of course if you have something to contribute, you are welcome to do so, but in a discussion about programming, "something to cvontribute" includes arguments, which are codes that show what you mean, that support your statements, etc, and not "It works that way on my system".


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Re: mrc vs inf #53134 10/10/03 07:07 PM
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then you have a strange system, and your input in discussions is then pointless since no one can use it.

maybe it is strange...
maybe i have a virus/worm/trojan/etc making this the case...
but if i find .txts faster than .mrcs on MY system, and i dont try it on ANOTHER system, how should i know my input wont help anyone?, i have no way of knowing this unless i try it on someone elses system, which i wouldn't do anyway.


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so just because the rules of programming says .txt and .mrc are the same speed, that means it must be true?
if you think that you're a fool:p


I take it you have NO idea how the internals of a CPU work? Because your statement there just made me, and everyone in my computer architecture class (who I just showed your post to), and even the professor who has a doctorate in computer science laugh.

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good for you :tongue:


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The point seem to be that you have provided no evidence that it's even a fact that they are faster on _your_ system. Not even the basic parameters of a scenario where this statement is true. Since this seems unlikely on any system I'm willing to bet that you're wrong, either because you're lying or because you're using flawed metrics. Now, you might not be bothered by the fact that I, and others, will openly say that we think you're wrong, even on your own system. In that case, power to you, please go on. We will. If you are bothered, provide us with the facts (scenario with relevant parameters, tests, and the numbers achieved) and we'll believe you and might even try to recreate your results (the definition of science) and come up with a decent explanation. Or, if somebody questions your honesty about the above numbers, that somebody might not not necessarily believe you, but now at least you've done what you can on your part.

For now, I, and dare I say we, believe that you just haven't tested sufficiently well. That you're wrong. Your unwillingness to share data about your alleged result is so universally typical of fraudulent and badly supported research that I really can come to no other conclusion than that you've got nothing substantial to provide and that you know it your statements aren't likely to survive a real test. Even on your own machine.

Sorry.

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welcome to 10 days ago! smirk


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Re: mrc vs inf #53139 20/10/03 06:54 PM
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yeah well we can also look back 2 months ago and see a very similar arguement from u. i doubt uve learned anything in 10 days as u didnt learn anything inthe time between this incident of validity and the last one.


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in future i'll test it on 10 systems first, ok?


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Re: mrc vs inf #53141 20/10/03 07:34 PM
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id settle for atleast one correct testing method on one system before u go making claims u cant backup. thats all, nothing more than providing some bit of proof when u argue a claim.


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how can i prove something that is local to my pc ?


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ok in these two cases where is your benchtesting to prove it? to my knowledge all we are workin on is your claim it is faster with nothign to back it up? can u see where im going with that? all anyone asks is proof to test your theory.


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