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Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31970 26/06/03 04:29 PM
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if (G. isin $2-) {
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Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31971 26/06/03 10:59 PM
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lmfao man your wasting your time seriously ...... dont bother posting help to ppl when your unsure of its outcome


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Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31972 27/06/03 12:13 AM
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well H. is here and G. is away so how could you be possibly unsure of its outcome :tongue:


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Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31973 27/06/03 12:18 AM
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your running a check thru an entire line of code hoping that there isnt a G somewhere else in it? and your telling me your sure?


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Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31974 27/06/03 12:24 AM
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G.
coz im using isin and not iswm the G. will have to be on its own ;\ it also has a . not just a G


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Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31975 27/06/03 12:41 AM
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Well that's still wrong..
1) Some servers don't have a . (QuakeNet, for example)
2) Even if the response was always G. if they were gone, what happens if their host is dog.org? It will trigger whether they are away or not.

Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31976 27/06/03 12:43 AM
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I don't know of any servers that use "G." and "H." for away status. EFnet, DALnet, Undernet, IRCNet, they all use "G" and "H", no period.

Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31977 27/06/03 04:56 AM
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ak...

You don't sent 25 notices all at once. You send one notice to 25 people.

...and I thought of a way to do the multi users private chats. What's missing when you send a privmsg to a list of users is that the recipients don't get a list of recipients, just the sender. All we need to do then is when a message is sent to more than one person, add the recipient list to the message. "PRIVMSG bob,joe,sue sent to bob, joe, sue: hi"

The recipients that don't have the plugin will then be notified that the message went to multiple people, and the clients with the plugin will read the recipient list and know to put the message in a chat window containing all the people on the list including the sender.

To add someone to the conversation you could type a simple command that adds the person or even drag their name to the window you want to add them to. (might need to send some message notifying the other people that you did this so they'll automatically add the person to the window too) Should be more convienient for when you just want to add a 3rd person to a conversation than going through the whole create-an-invite-only-channel-and-invite-everyone thing.

What's this watch thing? I don't see that on the server I'm using.

Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31978 27/06/03 05:03 AM
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What's this "g" stuff?

Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31979 27/06/03 05:26 AM
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When you send a /who the server responds with raw 352, part of this raw has either an H or a G in it depending on whether you are away or not.

Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31980 27/06/03 07:15 AM
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But your not even using isincs to check that its a capitol G not a g, as isin will match either.

Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31981 27/06/03 10:16 AM
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LET IT BE KNOWN.

The H and G you see in a /WHO are totally inaccurate, unless the person is on the same server you are. Everyone on a remote server will appear as H because servers don't communicate a person's /AWAY status to each other. When someone from another server appears in your /WHO, your server only assumes they are Here, and not Gone.

- Raccoon

PS. If someone pointed this out earlier, my apologies, I haven't been following this thread very closely as I think it's stupid to rehash this again and again.


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Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31982 27/06/03 01:08 PM
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I don't know of any server that allows you to supply a target list that large for a single message.

As for the 'multi users private chats', as I said before they already exist in IRC. They're called channels. There's absolutely no difference except channels can be more customisable if you choose.

The WATCH system is a more advanced version of notify to replace the standard ISON method, it removes the need for clients to continually query the server for the status of the list. You should try some different networks and see. Servers which have WATCH support will usually have a WATCH=N token in raw 005 (where N indicates the limit of many nicknames can be watched at once).


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Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31983 27/06/03 01:51 PM
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no it wont.....
isin means if it G. is on its own
if it was *G.* iswm then what ur saying wud b true


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Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31984 27/06/03 04:26 PM
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Actually, G. isin blah and *G.* iswm blah are exactly the same.

But the whole thing about G/H and whois replies is pointless anyway since it's a horrible, horrible way of trying to perform the requested feature.


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Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31985 27/06/03 04:29 PM
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then they can use a raw;\


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Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31986 28/06/03 01:41 AM
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No, oh god no.

Shame on your, turtle, for suggesting ways how mIRC (and, in places, how IRC) can become more IM-like frown

mIRC and IRC are fine as they are without frilly, multi-coloured, day-glo fonts (what's the point?) and an abundance of animated emoticons plus god knows what else.

I hate IM's for the above reasons, along with the fact that if you're in more than 3 conversations, you can kiss your desktop space goodbye.

No, IRC doesnt need to made more IM like and nor does mIRC. As the expression goes: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" wink

Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31987 29/06/03 02:45 PM
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I don't want "frilly, multi-coloured, day-glo fonts ... and an abundance of animated emoticons plus god knows what else." Just a simple reliable method of finding a person and seeing what they're doing and an easy way to start a conversation with more than one person.

What's wrong with making IRC more usefull and user friendly to attract more users?


Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31988 29/06/03 02:54 PM
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Could always break up the notices to send to 10 at a time or something if you need to.

WATCH system looks like it might be useful. Almost does what I'm looking for. If it also causes away messages to be sent, that would be everything right there.

Difference between private chats between users and a channel is that private chats just send messages to users and you have to create and admin a channel. I was looking for something more user friendly than having to create and admin channel before you can chat.

Re: mIRC Instant Messenger #31989 29/06/03 02:56 PM
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an instant messenger for mirc would be big, but fairly easy to script yourself :tongue:


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