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Dialog Studio? #30544 18/06/03 04:33 AM
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Now that ms.org seems to be gone, where do I get dialog studio? I reformatted my computer and i need that app to design dialogs quickly...

is there going to be another website for dialog studio?


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I haven't seen any sites that distribute Dialog Studio except for mircscripts.org. If I remember correctly, Dohcan didn't want people to redistribute it so you could only get it from mircscripts.org. I don't have the original .zip file but I can zip the files up and send them to you if you post your email address or AOL Instant Messenger screen name.

It's too bad there's not an archive of older versions of it. The latest version crashes all the time when I use it smirk (mostly when I preview the dialog)


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What server/channel does dohcan usually frequent?


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No idea smirk sorry


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is there going to be another website for dialog studio?

No, and there probably won't be any new versions of it either. This latest incident with the server being down coupled with the fact that I simply have no time or motivation to work on it will most likely lead to its current site/forum being removed. I see that someone provided a download to some version (didn't check) here... download that at your own risk.

I'm going to use this thread to "officially" announce that I'm no longer supporting Dialog Studio. I think someone named RG is writing a program that, apparently, "ownz dstudio foolz." If you can find his program, it would probably be best to use that, as it should be more up to date.

As for the source code... please don't ask for it right now. I haven't decided what I'm going to do yet.

Thanks for everyone that supported and helped me with Dialog Studio.

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actually dochan it is called MDXStudio and it has MDX and Dstudio all in one...

it doesn't OWN dialog studio but it is a very neat program to use ... i personally like dstudio myself but MDXStudio is ok i use that as well smile


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www.techgear007.net
www.matrix-team.net
www.hyperised2k.vze.com

perform a google search and you will find many more smile


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i personally find it much better to use dialog studio to make the dialog, then use the markdialog feature :tongue:


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Do you know the website of MDxstudio?


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here is the link to the dll's needed(its about half way down the page)
http://www.dim-bulb.net/~dragonzap/dlls/
and here is the link to mdx studio(the site is foreign but the program is english)
http://www.mondoirc.net/cs_programs.htm


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Re: Dialog Studio? #30555 19/06/03 11:21 PM
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Why doesn't someone just write a Dialog Maker program in mIRC script? I attempted this many many versions back (5.6 or 5.7 somewhere), but now everything is so dynamic that you should be able to create a dialog, modify the elements and attributes, and test it on the fly.

I think I'll give it another shot.

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Why doesn't someone just write a Dialog Maker program in mIRC script?


Someone did once, and the thing was very buggy! The script utilized mIRC's picture window support, and it was very inaccurate when it came to trying out the dialog's source code that you created. If I were you, I wouldn't even waste my time attempting to script an mIRC dialog maker.

Khaled should design an external program to design mIRC dialogs. Now that would be worth downloading! Yeah, I know, mIRC is not an operating system... *Sigh* laugh

One more thing, is there anyone out there who actually designs their dialogs "the good ol' fashioned way", without the use of a program?

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One more thing, is there anyone out there who actually designs their dialogs "the good ol' fashioned way", without the use of a program?


I am designing dialogs manually since it ever became available in mIRC. When dialog editors became available, it didn't change anything. I don't know, I feel I am more in control when coding it.

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I used to too until i started to run the dialog, then have to close it, change one value, reopen it, close it, change, open--too much work.


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I never said anything about picture windows. The dialog editor would simply format your Dialog Table as you drag controls around on a dialog. The design dialog traps events as you drag the mouse around, moving and resizing objects, etc.

/did can do almost anything.

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That doesn't sound half bad at all. I automatically assumed it would use picture window support.

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i did, until i tried dialog studio


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but wouldn't it be slow and troublesome?


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Does anyone know of a way to specify that a Dialog event should capture events for multipe or ANY (*) Dialog IDs?

Eg: On *:Dialog:Name:Event:*:

The above example desn't seem to work though. frown
Btw, this is for the 'mouse' event, if it makes any difference. I would like an event to trigger when moving the mouse over any control.

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that will work for any id with that specific event..
ex:
on 1:DIALOG:mydlog:SCLICK:*: {
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That will work for a single click of any id (that supports the sclick event) Scoll and text amoung others of course would be the exception.


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I'm just working on my element drag/move routine, and trying to come up with some method of capturing 'mouse' events over elements as they are being dragged. I suppose I'll just have to start a millisecond timer and watch $mouse.x $mouse.y and $mouse.key, when objects are being dragged. Something I was hoping I could avoid.

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I think someone named RG is writing a program that, apparently, "ownz dstudio foolz"

That's me, but what was that : "ownz dstudio foolz."? I really haven't say such a thing and as i have say in the past, Dialog studio inspired me to make dialog editor.Also, i used to make dialogs with it when i start scripting.I can't understand the way you think.

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It was probably something that somebody else said, that helped de-inspire dohcan.


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As Raccoon pointed out, it was someone else. I found a site that had a screenshot of your program and several people were making comments like that. It didn't bother me and I was actually glad there was something else out there, as I was getting tired of working on dstudio by that point.

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I really didn't make dialog editor to competit you.I also don't care about these kind of comments and i am one of them who felt dissapointed with your decision of stop developing Dialog Studio.It definately "marked" mIRC community.

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* Raccoon wonders what dohcan and RG would think about joining forces and combining their efforts in creating a new dialog editor for 6.04/6.10, when it is finally released.
* Raccoon would even like to be a part of that.

I suspect there will be significant to major changes for dialogs in this coming version, that may require a new application from the ground up. I only hope /did includes more dynamic control over creating, destroying, and altering elements so such an editor could almost be completely done in script.

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I think both you and Dohcan do excellent work with Delphi. The two dialog editing programs are both good, and hard to compare to each other. It all comes down to preference really, as the GUI's are different.

I also hope Dialog Studio is updated when the new mIRC comes out, No doubt it will have new dialog controls...

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I also hope Dialog Studio is updated when the new mIRC comes out, No doubt it will have new dialog controls...


Here is a quote from a previous post in this thread...this may answer your question...

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is there going to be another website for dialog studio?

No, and there probably won't be any new versions of it either. This latest incident with the server being down coupled with the fact that I simply have no time or motivation to work on it will most likely lead to its current site/forum being removed. I see that someone provided a download to some version (didn't check) here... download that at your own risk.

I'm going to use this thread to "officially" announce that I'm no longer supporting Dialog Studio. I think someone named RG is writing a program that, apparently, "ownz dstudio foolz." If you can find his program, it would probably be best to use that, as it should be more up to date.

As for the source code... please don't ask for it right now. I haven't decided what I'm going to do yet.

Thanks for everyone that supported and helped me with Dialog Studio.


Just thought you outta know...


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Here is a quote from a previous post in this thread...this may answer your question...

Just thought you outta know...


Yeah I always read the previous posts wink. What im saying is that I hope he reconsiders his decision when the new mIRC comes out. Because DS is still a good program, regardless of how good RG's fine program is.

For all we know the next mIRC might even have a dialog editor built-in, making them all redundant shocked

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For all we know the next mIRC might even have a dialog editor built-in


That would be sweet but I don't see it happening...

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Wouldn't it feel kind of like mIRC is turning into some kinda VB-lookalike if that happened?


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I dunno, I guess it would be really weird having that option included...

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Maybe be wierd, but also helpful...


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You're right, it would for those that know how to use it...otherwise you would have an option that would probably confuse new users as well. But yes it would be very helpful

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