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Re: Time Talker in MSN #27229 01/06/03 11:57 AM
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If you doubt me, just try scripting on MSN and try using /ctcpreply or .ctcpreply

Re: Time Talker in MSN #27230 01/06/03 12:48 PM
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But command prefixes are mIRC things. They're not sent to the server!

No matter if you type /ctcpreply or /.ctcpreply, server gets only CTCPREPLY.

Unless, of course, you have your own /ctcpreply alias, or you're using sockets to send it.

Re: Time Talker in MSN #27231 01/06/03 02:46 PM
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yes but what your describing there isnt mirc commands ...... your describing server commands ......... a ctcpreply is a mirc command which sends a signal from ur machine to the others with whatever information ur providing along with it ........ this accesscrap your talking about is just ircx commands to ban someone ........ its like internally built services into the ircd....... with that said u need to read my above post to him about my child and the help file .......


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Re: Time Talker in MSN #27232 01/06/03 02:52 PM
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You are very sure /ctcpreply $chan TIME works, you should try doing that command connected to MSN - so that you wouldn't doubt anymore - because MSN isn't just your normal IRC Server

Re: Time Talker in MSN #27233 01/06/03 03:11 PM
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ok lets go slowly for u then ....
if u type ctcpreply $chan TIME mirc is going to send a ctcpt reply from your machine out to the channel ...... regardless of whether the server recognizes that command or not its a mirc command putting these prefixes on it wont change the fact it is still sent ........ read the help file on prefixes


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Re: Time Talker in MSN #27234 01/06/03 03:16 PM
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Ok, the problem is that the server will not respond if you perform the command /ctcpreply $chan TIME but will respond to the command /.ctcpreply

Re: Time Talker in MSN #27235 01/06/03 03:52 PM
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lol i doubt highly u really realize what your saying the server has nothing to do with a ctcp unless its ignoreing it thru modes of some kind ...... if the one works the other would have to work ...... mirc sends commands thru ctcpreply whether u prefix it with any of the default mirc prefixes or not ....... when u send that ctcp your sending your time to the entire channel ..... try doing it with a specific user and see what happens maybe they have modified it so u cant send a ctcp to everyone in a channel as it will flood a room


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Re: Time Talker in MSN #27236 01/06/03 08:09 PM
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Lets try to clear this up once and for all...

Command Line Command Sent:

/ctcp ChanSys TIME -> <network> PRIVMSG ChanSys :TIME
.ctcp ChanSys TIME -> <network> PRIVMSG ChanSys :TIME
/.ctcp ChanSys TIME -> <network> PRIVMSG ChanSys :TIME

Enough said. Now, no matter what is typed in mirc the same command line is sent to the server


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Re: Time Talker in MSN #27237 02/06/03 12:09 AM
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ty im glad to see im not the only one trying to explain this to them till im blew in the face ...... maybe i just need to get me a better sig and ill be ok haha


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Re: Time Talker in MSN #27238 03/06/03 07:24 PM
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thankyou i told them smile


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Re: Time Talker in MSN #27239 03/06/03 07:26 PM
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no it is much different, to connect to msn you need to use a series of dll's and everything and the maker of the connection has obviously made his own mirc commands simply because msn attempted to ban mirc


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Re: Time Talker in MSN #27240 03/06/03 07:30 PM
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as he said at least twice, msn isnt a normal server as mirc is 'banned' there, so therefore msn isnt going to recognise standard mirc commands is it, no, so therefore maybe that is just a mirc command created by the maker of the connection inside a dll or ocx etc, all were saying is the / prefix and the . prefix do not work in msn! it has to be /.


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Re: Time Talker in MSN #27241 03/06/03 11:14 PM
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oheonix listen to me really slowly i will say this yet again for u .......

1: typing ./ctcp PING #CHAN isnt a server command ...... its not really anything to do with the server ....... but it may have been blocked ........ now with that said if u type the command your mirc will still send it ..... u just wont get a reply no matter what u do .....

ok so lets recap this ppl are complaining they cant use thier mirc on a server that they arnt supposed to be anyhow ..... and come here to get an answer because they cant figure it out ...... then whine about the answers given to them

well for all of those ppl i will only say this one simple thing /debug @Debug and type the command in msn servers ..... u will see it sends it its just ignored by server

its a shame u Cant Understand Normal Thinking, but im seriously tired of saying the same exact things over and over to ppl who just dont get it. do not bother posting back to me as whatever your going to say is probably the same thing uve said last month before crying and apologizing or its the same thing all the msn ppl have said either i care not to hear it


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Re: Time Talker in MSN #27242 04/06/03 07:33 PM
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i never said it didnt send but i meant it didnt work meaning: there is no point in sending a ctcp if youre not going to get a response.........


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Re: Time Talker in MSN #27243 04/06/03 09:39 PM
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ok so your honestly telling me that mirc sends the ctcp out from it using any method but it only returns it if u use both prefixes? well then how in the hell would anyone here in this forum be able to answer a question that changed the mirc standard protocals of how it delivered commands when this dll or ocx (lmfao) or whatever the hell u wanna call it, is written by someone else?

final answer on this topic: GO ASK YOUR FRIENDLY MSN HACKER


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Re: Time Talker in MSN #27244 11/06/03 07:54 AM
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im not saying you should know but why would you argue when i know what im talking about and you dont


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Re: Time Talker in MSN #27245 11/06/03 09:34 PM
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ok just so u know i surely do know what im saying its quite plain and simple read this post un the connection uissues forum sticky thread even

MSN NOT WANTING MIRC THERE

Parabrat a moderator here had emailed MSN chat directly and asked exactly what your telling me im wrong about ...... so if your wondering where im getting this info from there ya go ..... straight from MSN ...... THEY DO NOT WANT ANYTHING OTHER THAN THIER SOFTWARE BEING USED ON THIER SERVERS

ok now how does that translate to me being wrong and u being right? because last i know ive said MSN doesnt want MIRC on thier servers ..... plainly that falls under the catagory u have no f$*king clue what your saying ....... now dont post the im wrong comment again to this thread ... it should be closed because u Cant Understand Normal Thinking ...... and not read things and find out fact before you look ignorant


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Re: Time Talker in MSN #27246 12/06/03 05:51 PM
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i really dont care what u say


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Re: Time Talker in MSN #27247 13/06/03 09:10 AM
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also i dont even go on msn any more i was just stating he is right.And your rong


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