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#264365 - 24/11/18 09:57 AM mIRC 32bit for wine on Raspbian
raven
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Registered: 24/11/18
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Don't ask why, but I'm trying to get mIRC to run thru wine in Raspbian (Raspberry Pi OS), but it doesn't like 64bit. I have been googling a bit, but can't try a trustworthy archive of older versions. Is there anyone out there on the interwebz sitting on mIRC 32bit? No matter what version, if it's 1.0 or 7.52, just need to be clean 32bit

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#264367 - 24/11/18 10:11 AM Re: mIRC 32bit for wine on Raspbian
maroon
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Registered: 12/01/04
Posts: 970
7.52 is 32 bits as shown by: //echo -a $bits I'm using 32-bit Windows 7, so if it were 64-bit I couldn't run it. However the mirc.com download page does include a link to v6.35 https://www.mirc.com/get.html "mIRC v6.35 and can be downloaded here." Top #264368 - 24/11/18 10:16 AM Re: mIRC 32bit for wine on Raspbian raven Self-satisified door Registered: 24/11/18 Posts: 4 Loc: Sweden Originally Posted By: maroon 7.52 is 32 bits as shown by: //echo -a$bits

I'm using 32-bit Windows 7, so if it were 64-bit I couldn't run it.

https://www.mirc.com/get.html

Yes, I know But I probably need a clean 32bit version, without 64bit support for wine to accept it. Allready tried with 6.35

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#264370 - 24/11/18 11:02 AM Re: mIRC 32bit for wine on Raspbian
Khaled

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Registered: 04/12/02
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Loc: London, UK
mIRC is currently 32bit. It performs some 64bit calculations and make some calls that use 64bit values but these are through standard Windows APIs that are not 64bit specific.

As for clean versions of mIRC, that's tricky because I don't have copies of older releases. The only versions I can guarantee are the digitally signed versions from v7.1 onwards. Some websites such as oldversion.com have older versions of mIRC and virus scan them.

I haven't tried Raspberry Pi before - which model are you using?

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#264371 - 24/11/18 11:07 AM Re: mIRC 32bit for wine on Raspbian
raven
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Registered: 24/11/18
Posts: 4
Loc: Sweden
This is an old Raspberry Pi 1, the first model ever produced. I haven't tried on the newer 3 B+ yet, if it's a hardware issue.

Dunno how much Linux you know, but this is the output:

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#264372 - 24/11/18 11:15 AM Re: mIRC 32bit for wine on Raspbian
Khaled

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Registered: 04/12/02
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Interesting, that does look like a 32bit/64bit issue.

If you run the installer on Windows to extract the mirc.exe executable and then try to run that on Raspbian, does it show the same error? Or you could download the latest beta, which is just a zip file containing the mirc.exe executable.

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#264374 - 24/11/18 11:58 AM Re: mIRC 32bit for wine on Raspbian
raven
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Registered: 24/11/18
Posts: 4
Loc: Sweden
Originally Posted By: Khaled
Interesting, that does look like a 32bit/64bit issue.

If you run the installer on Windows to extract the mirc.exe executable and then try to run that on Raspbian, does it show the same error? Or you could download the latest beta, which is just a zip file containing the mirc.exe executable.

I got the exact same issue. Since I'm probably one in 10 million that try to run a modern windows software on an ancient architecture like this, I will post the problem in a few Linux-forums and see if I can find anything there

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#264376 - 24/11/18 02:09 PM Re: mIRC 32bit for wine on Raspbian
kap
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Registered: 19/02/15
Posts: 34
Loc: Vlissingen, The Netherlands
I'm by no means an expert, but I believe this is not possible [1] due to the different CPU architectures. Raspberry pi = ARM/RISC and mIRC runs on x86 architecture...

[1] Unless you pay for something like ExaGear (emulator) https://eltechs.com/product/exagear-desktop/
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#264380 - 24/11/18 11:32 PM Re: mIRC 32bit for wine on Raspbian
Raccoon
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Registered: 18/02/03
Posts: 2504
For experimentation, try the 10 year old mIRC v6.35 which is still an official download. If the installer doesn't work in Raspbian, try to just extract the mirc.exe file as that is the only file which is needed to run. (mIRC is very portable in that regard.)

https://www.mirc.com/get.php?version=635
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#264383 - 25/11/18 09:39 AM Re: mIRC 32bit for wine on Raspbian
KindOne
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Registered: 23/02/11
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You would need to run mIRC though an emulator like kap said.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZuV8oTZiQE (mIRC and Quake on a Pi).

Your PC runs on x86 while the Pi runs on ARM, they are totally different architectures. Basically one speaks English and the other speaks French.

Emulation will be slow on the Pi.
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#264386 - 26/11/18 12:44 AM Re: mIRC 32bit for wine on Raspbian
Raccoon
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He said he's already using Wine, which necessarily means he's already using an x86 emulator to do so. Which means he's probably already running ExaGear (or Qemu).
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#264387 - 26/11/18 01:06 AM Re: mIRC 32bit for wine on Raspbian
FroggieDaFrog
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Registered: 16/04/10
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WINE is not an emulator, its a call translator; it converts Standard Windows API calls to distro-native calls. It does NOT emulate missing feature sets.

Yes, WINE can be installed on a PI but there's not gurantee it will function as expected from a x86 machine on an ARM/RISC machine.

He will need an ARM/RISC to x86 emulator of which to run WINE in.
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