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Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar #226350 28/09/10 11:13 AM
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Which one do you prefer?

I prefer the switch bar myself. But I'm starting to like the tree.


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: N3M3S1S] #226351 28/09/10 11:14 AM
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I use the switchbar. Never really liked tree menus.


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: N3M3S1S] #226352 28/09/10 11:24 AM
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switchbar of course!


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: jaytea] #226353 28/09/10 11:54 AM
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Treebar definitely. Way too many windows to make the switchbar feasible.

Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: N3M3S1S] #226355 28/09/10 03:42 PM
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Switchbar. I just wish we still had the buttons like before.

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Was using switchbar at first but changed to treebar just to test it,and using it ever since =0P

Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: mbab] #226369 28/09/10 09:36 PM
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yup, same here. Was partial to the switchbar for the longest, then had to many windows open so I switched to the treeview


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: FroggieDaFrog] #226371 28/09/10 10:55 PM
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I see so its about 50/50 I'd say? Anyone else?

BTW thanks for the feedback this is going towards which of the two will be featured as the default in my mIRC project


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: N3M3S1S] #226373 28/09/10 11:25 PM
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I use Treebar.

I use the treebar, as I am in 8 servers and in 50+ channels all the time.

Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: maconga] #226374 28/09/10 11:33 PM
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Well when you look at it, the tree bar is designed to manage more server windows and channel windows etc. than the switch bar. The tree bar can easily handle 2x or more windows than what the switch bar can, and with the collapsible branches it makes room for that much more.

I'm only on 3 servers with a total of 22 widows open through out. and the switch bar is probably 2/3 full. With the tree bar with all items displayed on the tree, it takes up a little over half of the bar.


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: N3M3S1S] #226400 29/09/10 11:32 AM
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Yes, if you're in tons of channels, treebar makes more sense. Personally, I just stay in channels where I either offer help/support or chat with friends, so the number of channels I am in is far less than some others.

I *might* consider using the treebar if it offered background support the way that the switchbar does. Since I can't really theme it to match the rest of my mIRC, I don't really care to use it. I'm sure there's a DLL somewhere that can do that, but I don't want more DLLs than I already have. Anyhow, just personal preference. wink


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: N3M3S1S] #226426 29/09/10 09:56 PM
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Switchbar for a few channels, treebar for a lot of channels.

Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: hixxy] #226438 30/09/10 10:32 AM
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switchbar

Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: firefox] #226439 30/09/10 10:56 AM
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Hmm seems like its still 50/50

Nice


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: N3M3S1S] #226460 30/09/10 04:57 PM
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Switchbar for pball. I'm only in 5 servers and 15 chans. I actually made a script that lets me easily hide status/chan/@windows etc from the switchbar.


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: pball] #226464 30/09/10 06:26 PM
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pball that sounds cool. A useful tool for us switchbar lovers! lol


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: N3M3S1S] #226471 01/10/10 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted By: N3M3S1S
pball that sounds cool. A useful tool for us switchbar lovers! lol


Since you said that here is a link to it. It's quite simple and does @windows, status windows, chans, and queries. It only does @windows/chans/queries for the server you are currently on. Just right click on any of the above types of windows and you get the option.

http://pball.pastebin.com/7Yb3dNV7

There is one quirk to the script, if you hide a window then open it either via the Window menu list or another way. The right click option won't show that's it's still "hidden" and will hide it again. That's just because of how it checks the window state.
Also I can't seem to get dcc chat window states so I can't really add this for them.


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: pball] #226477 01/10/10 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted By: pball
Also I can't seem to get dcc chat window states so I can't really add this for them.

You can use window IDs, for example:
$window(@ $+ $send(1).wid).state
window -ra $+(@,$get(someone,2).wid)

Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: Horstl] #226490 03/10/10 01:23 AM
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Thanks man, that really helped. I figured there was a way just didn't know how.

updated with DCC chat windows
http://pball.pastebin.com/UVsN2yVP


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: pball] #226497 03/10/10 09:33 AM
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Switchbar would be way too cluttered for me. Treebar, please!


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: Thels] #226510 04/10/10 06:17 AM
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Nice script pball you should let me add that to the next version of my script wink


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: N3M3S1S] #226537 06/10/10 03:43 AM
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What script might that be?

Go ahead and use it if you want. If you give me credit sweet, if not nothing lost for me.


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: pball] #226538 06/10/10 03:56 AM
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Its nothing too special, it is still in the beta testing pages. Its on hawkee. Just search my user name N3M3S1S on hawkee to see all my scripts.

I decided to make the switch bar the default choice in my script, but I added a popup menu for the status window allowing you to change back and forth between status and tree bars. laugh


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: N3M3S1S] #226557 06/10/10 03:29 PM
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For me, it's always been the switchbar. I've had tons of channels and queries open on several irc networks to the point where you can't read the buttons on the switchbar but I still manage hehe, I hate the treebar, its just ugly and unthemable, maybe possible with a DLL but i'm anti-DLL and prefer to make everything i want/need in 100% mSL.

Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: Talon] #226563 07/10/10 03:00 AM
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True. I don't mind the tree bar too much. But eh.

Why anti-DLL? DLLs allow for more features to be added to your mSL script. Using a DLL is still using mSL all the calling commands for the DLL are done in mSL. Now the programming language that makes the DLL is different, but you dont utilize that language in the mSL script that uses that DLL.


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: N3M3S1S] #226566 07/10/10 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted By: N3M3S1S
True. I don't mind the tree bar too much. But eh.

Why anti-DLL? DLLs allow for more features to be added to your mSL script. Using a DLL is still using mSL all the calling commands for the DLL are done in mSL. Now the programming language that makes the DLL is different, but you dont utilize that language in the mSL script that uses that DLL.


DLLs influence stability... their biggest problem.

BTW... there's also the Window menu...

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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: MeStinkBAD] #226572 07/10/10 10:21 PM
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Well the crappy DLLs are unstable, and the older DLLs dont work with the newer versions of mIRC, but there are some good solid DLLs out there. DCX is a good example of a nice DLL.


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: FroggieDaFrog] #226590 08/10/10 09:15 AM
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Change the "Lines" of Switchbar and your problem will be solved :P
Treebar sucks


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Many parts of DCX are incompatible with Windows 7 and/or mIRC 7.*


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: FroggieDaFrog] #226624 09/10/10 10:16 PM
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I'm sure a new version will come out eventually. It works good with XP and 6.35 wink

I know I need to update to a newer OS but I like XP


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: N3M3S1S] #227624 16/11/10 08:29 AM
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On my netbook, I use switchbar, as I have very few channels to join, and want to have as much space in width as possible. On my desktop, I have a lot more space in the width, and I generally am on a lot more channels/networks, so I use the treebar.

So yeah, sometimes one, sometimes the other. Or both when mIRC is set all to default and I haven't changed anything yet.


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Re: Which do you prefer? Switchbar vs. Treebar [Re: Knoeki] #227636 16/11/10 11:33 PM
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last time used switchbar was on 6.03
since treebar was introduced, never went back to switchbar

much more clean UI
and now when widescreen monitors are dominant
theres no lack of space in width so treebar is suitable

the only problem is lack of font size/type setting for it
atleast on older versions...

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I started using treebar right off the bat and while Im not an IRCer anymore, it's still locked on treebar.


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