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Nooo!!! #219917 02/04/10 10:03 PM
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You cannot be serious! Mirc 7.0 only works on windows 7?! I have windows 98 and it fails! Please fix so i can enjoy it just like the rest of us.

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mIRC 7.0 works on the same versions of Windows as before.


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Originally Posted By: argv0
mIRC 7.0 works on the same versions of Windows as before.


No, it said mirc is expecting a more recent version of windows after i installed :<.

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It works on more than Windows 7, but 98 is very outdated. You cannot expect mIRC to always maintain compatibility with something over 10 years old.


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It works in XP/Vista as well?

In what way does it fail on 98? I'm tempted to dig out my disc and install it...

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Originally Posted By: Riamus2
It works on more than Windows 7, but 98 is very outdated. You cannot expect mIRC to always maintain compatibility with something over 10 years old.


Well it works will with 6.35, i dont see why it cant work with win 98 :\.

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Originally Posted By: Ddan
It works in XP/Vista as well?

In what way does it fail on 98? I'm tempted to dig out my disc and install it...


Please do so you can be angry with me :<.

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It likely works on 2000 and newer. The "failure" is likely a version check that prevents it from running because of features and changes that require a newer version of Windows to work properly. If anyone absolutely cannot upgrade their Windows from 98, they still can use 6.35.

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Well it works will with 6.35, i dont see why it cant work with win 98 :\.


It is a major rewrite from 6.35. Just because that version works on 98 doesn't mean this one will.


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Re: Nooo!!! [Re: Riamus2] #219926 02/04/10 10:10 PM
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My windows 98 has all the windows xp goods installed so im pretty sure it should have all the required files, this version check is lame tho :<, maybe khalid can search for the files instead of the version :|.

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Sorry, to clarify: mIRC no longer works under 95/98, but it does work on other versions than Win7. As said, 98 is too old to support anymore. There are new features in Windows (like Unicode, IPv6, the very features this beta targets) that make it difficult to maintain backwards compatibility and slow the progress of mIRC.

You can always continue to use 6.35. Again, if you're on a pre-XP version of Windows, you won't benefit from many features in the 7.0 beta anyway.


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Looks pointless for me to try, it seems an intentional move, sorry bud.

Out of curiosity is there no chance you can upgrade to XP!?

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Installing "extras" to make 98 have some of the things from XP does not change the OS to XP. More than just a few *files* were changed between 98 and XP, so installing a few files won't give you the real compatibility that XP would offer. Sorry, but you have to either upgrade Windows or else use 6.35 from now on.


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Im prettyyy sure i could benified from the new things on mirc :<! Especially the ini fix with saved inis like [x] & [x[ being the same frown!

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Originally Posted By: Termz
Im prettyyy sure i could benified from the new things on mirc :<! Especially the ini fix with saved inis like [x] & [x[ being the same frown!


And I'm sure you could benefit from the new things in Windows as well. Maintaining compatibility with something over 10 years old prevents software from moving forward very easily. If you want the new mIRC, then get a new OS.


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Originally Posted By: Riamus2
Installing "extras" to make 98 have some of the things from XP does not change the OS to XP. More than just a few *files* were changed between 98 and XP, so installing a few files won't give you the real compatibility that XP would offer. Sorry, but you have to either upgrade Windows or else use 6.35 from now on.


Sigh, what are the chances khalid will make like a final version for windows 98 that has no bugs, especially the ini bug, that annoys me a lot :<.

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Originally Posted By: Termz
Sigh, what are the chances khalid will make like a final version for windows 98 that has no bugs, especially the ini bug, that annoys me a lot :<.


Probably none.


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Re: Nooo!!! [Re: Termz] #219963 03/04/10 10:35 AM
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The new version of mIRC will only run under Windows 2000, XP, Vista, and 7.

It is no longer possible to run the new version of mIRC under older versions of Windows, such as Windows 95/98, since they cannot run Unicode applications natively, and any Unicode support that they do have is very limited. It was only with Windows 2000 and onwards that Unicode became a viable and practical option for applications.

At some point, I have to decide when to drop support for an older version of Windows. I usually maintain support for as long as I can - for example, Windows 3.1 was supported for many years, long after most developers dropped support for it, and even though very few people used it.

In the same way, I held back improvements in mIRC to support Windows 95/98, even though very few people were using those versions of Windows. At this point, Windows 95/98 register barely, if at all, in any global usage statistics. So it does seem a reasonable point to drop support for them and to allow mIRC development to move forward.

I have just added a section to the beta page that indicates which versions of Windows are supported.