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allow color codes in nicklist #21165 27/04/03 03:12 PM
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Hi,

With some tweaking to some ircdeamons out there it is possible to use nicknames with color codes

however, those nicks showup with the exact codes (not the colors its self) in the mirc userlist

for example a nick with :ICE (and color codes in between) whould show the big black blocks it usually does with itls color number
[]9I[]8C[]7E

now if mirc whould support this, the icd's can follow smile
(yes i know this is some trouble for name checking for the ircd writers out there) but a coder can overcome anything smile

Re: allow color codes in nicklist #21166 28/04/03 04:51 AM
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That'd be a horrible, horrible idea.

Nicklist shows:

codemastr
codemastr
codemastr

the first one is just plain "codemastr"
the second one is "^k1codemastr" (ie, black text)
the third is "^k1,0codemastr" (ie, black text with a white background). I could come up with several hundred different combinations of this that would all appear exactly the same in the nicklist.

How do you distinguish the three? YOU CAN'T. Also saying "with some tweaking", well should mIRC support bitmap data in nicknames? Because I could "tweak" an IRCd to allow images for nicks. RFC1459 states what characters are allowed in a nickname. Granted, IRCds take some liberty on exactly what is allowed, but NONE of the "real" IRCds (ie, not ones made by script kiddies for use on there network where they want to look "l33t" and have colored nicknames) allow colors. Adding this feature would introduce bugs and problems, and it would add needless processing since 99.99999999999% of servers won't support it; it is a horrible, horrible idea.

Re: allow color codes in nicklist #21167 28/04/03 12:53 PM
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In addition you would need codestripping turned off to enable nickname!*@* type bans.

Re: allow color codes in nicklist #21168 28/04/03 06:22 PM
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Just think about what Chan[^K0]Serv would make the network endure.


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Re: allow color codes in nicklist #21169 30/04/03 05:16 AM
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there is one bot palbot: http://www.palbot.com/
do Virtual Nick
but not able to put color nick in nicklist
only show nick in channel/query text area
it's don't change the irc protocol
but require a validate nick, and modify the nick
when chatting, it send text by prefixing some hidden code
PRIVMSG #chan ^k99^k... ^k..^k.. user typed text goes here

the another palbot parse the hidden code
which will modify user's nick, render color on nick, and append chars to it(won't del/insert chars)

Re: allow color codes in nicklist #21170 30/04/03 05:43 PM
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That sounds rather annoying for people who don't use that program...

Re: allow color codes in nicklist #21171 01/05/03 02:04 AM
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no, it's hidden
for example:
^k99^k91^k33^k42^k....
he's so smart that he hide info as number after ^k smile

Re: allow color codes in nicklist #21172 01/05/03 02:32 AM
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ok if its got to trigger an event on the other end it has to be text that can be seen ....... meaning U CANT HIDE IT ..... thats what they are saying by it would be annoying ..... maybe the script strips it out in ur end but it cant possibly have nothign that can be seen trigger an event in his script... thats just not possible


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Re: allow color codes in nicklist #21173 01/05/03 02:49 AM
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on the other end, the client parse the text
and echo < $+ %modified_nick $+ > $+ stripped-hidden-prefix-text

it's a solution without modifying the ircserver and mirc

but it's off topic smile
i just mention a bot that handle virtual nick, store info in text
and parse text to "modify" the nick just for display
it can't put colored nick in nicklist, cos mIRC don't allow it

Re: allow color codes in nicklist #21174 01/05/03 03:24 AM
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its not even a solution ..... what your saying is EVERYONE would have to have this special addon to be able to even see this ...... again ur wrong u cant hide text that triggers an event or alias .. otherwise it doesnt trigger it ... i dont know where your getting your logic from but if u cant see a trigger that makes the script work ...... then it will not trigger ..... there for if its there EVERYONE sees it .... hence it would be annoying to everyone else


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Re: allow color codes in nicklist #21175 01/05/03 05:23 AM
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why don't u try /echo ^k99^k91^k33^k42 ?
can u see anyting annoying?

Re: allow color codes in nicklist #21176 01/05/03 07:14 AM
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yes i see exactly this come up on my screen
^k99^k91^k33^k42
maybe u wouldnt mind chatting to a nick who had a nick of
Sam ^k99^k91^k33^k42 and when they say hello u see this

<Sam> ^k99^k91^k33^k42 Hello

that neds to be there in order to se \t off your trigger your talking about ....... without it it wont set off your trigger ur saying u have i dont see why u cant understand that point rather clearly its not hidden its quite plainly there


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Re: allow color codes in nicklist #21177 01/05/03 07:55 AM
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do u know ^k means ctrl+k ?
do you using mIRC that support ctrl+k 99
^k1=red
^k1^k2^k3^k4^k1=black
the control code is parsed by mIRC, so it won't be visible.
the bot is not written by me, but it works perfectly that only 2 bot using the right script will see the virutal nick
as it's named virtual nick, not real color nick

and sorry for the first poster: iceblade
i don't meant to such far off topic
just telling that an existing bot can make use of color nicklist, if miRC support it

Re: allow color codes in nicklist #21178 01/05/03 03:33 PM
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i typed your command exactly as u wrote it ...... it displayed exactly as i posted it back to u here ..... im using mirc 6.03 and apparently on my machine ^4 does not mean RED it just means ^4 i even tried //echo ^4 to see if that made a difference ...... nope nothing still see the same useless stuff garbled up and annoying as ever .......


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Re: allow color codes in nicklist #21179 01/05/03 04:02 PM
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damn.....
do u read what codemastr post:
-> the second one is "^k1codemastr" (ie, black text)
what he type ^k1 in the _POST_, MEANs to press ctrl+k and type 1 in _mIRC_
don't mean to type "^" and type "k" and type "1" in mIRC
ctrl+k is mIRC
but ^k is just used when we express "ctrl+k" in documents/helps/posts
ok?

and do your client support mIRC color code?

Re: allow color codes in nicklist #21180 01/05/03 04:28 PM
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Quote:
why don't u try /echo ^k99^k91^k33^k42 ?
can u see anyting annoying?


Yes, this IS annoying.
Try to ban/op etc. such nick using ircII or other text-based client, where you don't have nice nicklist popups...

Re: allow color codes in nicklist #21181 03/05/03 02:06 AM
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the /cnick and /cline command both let you colorize the nicklist. they operate in very differant ways, and there's a whole host of annoyances involved with using either one, but they're all we've got.


and using them won't drive other people up the wall.

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