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can't identify w/ chatroom password nor register #191364 07/12/07 05:39 PM
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I founded a chatroom on chanserv and regularly went but then stopped going for a couple of months.

yesterday I went back in but no longer was automatically op-ed.

I tried identifying myself with the chatroom's password but it said that the chatroom is not registered.

When I tried to register the chatroom, it said that I have to be in it and op-ed.

there are a number of people who regularly go and none of them are op-ed.. I still have the password - why can't I identify myself as the founder?

v. grateful if you can fix this.

Re: can't identify w/ chatroom password nor register [Re: bluebird002] #191366 07/12/07 05:46 PM
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The channel registration expired. This usually happens when the founders nick expires or when the founder doesn't identify for the channel for a period of time. I think nick/chan expiration for most networks is about 30 days but I've seen some as little as 14 days.

Re: can't identify w/ chatroom password nor register [Re: RoCk] #191373 07/12/07 11:28 PM
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Ok thanks, but how do I re-register it again?

Re: can't identify w/ chatroom password nor regist [Re: bluebird002] #191375 08/12/07 12:15 AM
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To register a channel try using /msg chanserv register <#channel> <password> <description>

Note that you probably must have a registered nick in order to register a channel.

I understand that there are networks that don't require the <description> that I posted earlier, but I've not come across one.

Re: can't identify w/ chatroom password nor regist [Re: RusselB] #191377 08/12/07 12:26 AM
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Yes, I have tried that, as I mentioned in my first post, but it stated that I need to be op-ed to be able to register the channel. How do I get op-ed. No-one in this room gets op-ed as far as I can see.

Re: can't identify w/ chatroom password nor regist [Re: bluebird002] #191378 08/12/07 12:27 AM
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I use a registered nickname also, btw.

Re: can't identify w/ chatroom password nor regist [Re: bluebird002] #191387 08/12/07 01:50 AM
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You will have to get everyone to leave the channel so that you can gain ops in it and register it again. Good luck doing that. I've had issues with that in the past and trying to get everyone to leave is often very difficult. I'd recommend setting up a temporary channel for them until you get it registered again.


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Re: can't identify w/ chatroom password nor regist *DELETED* [Re: Riamus2] #191402 08/12/07 03:23 PM
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Re: can't identify w/ chatroom password nor regist [Re: bluebird002] #191404 08/12/07 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: bluebird002
Riamus2, thanks, that answers my question. I had suspected as such.

And yeah, I can't see it happening. some people are permanently logged into it, while they sleep and all. lol.

Re: can't identify w/ chatroom password nor regist [Re: bluebird002] #191409 08/12/07 04:54 PM
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create a small script, then when the channel is empty you auto cycle it to gain op again..
Code:
on *:PART:#: {
  if ($nick(#,0) == 1) { cycle $chan }
}
on *:QUIT:{
  if ($nick(#,0) == 1) { cycle $chan }
}
alias cycle { 
    part $1
    .timerj 1 1 join $1
}

This is how i solved the problem, but didnt test this code, was a while ago and dont have the code i used.

The code goes in a clean remote file. ALT + R in your mirc.


if ($me != tired) { return } | else { echo -a Get a pot of coffee now $+($me,.) }
Re: can't identify w/ chatroom password nor regist [Re: sparta] #191414 08/12/07 06:50 PM
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I've never used a script before - how do I apply it. I put it in a clean remote file, then what?

Re: can't identify w/ chatroom password nor regist [Re: bluebird002] #191416 08/12/07 07:09 PM
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With that script, once you have it entered into the remote file, just wait.

Re: can't identify w/ chatroom password nor regist [Re: RusselB] #191417 08/12/07 07:25 PM
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hey, I've had that script in a clean remote file and I've been in the aforementioned chatroom - logged in and out of it - and talking for some time... 15 minutes at least...

do i need to change something in the script - enter some variables or something?

Re: can't identify w/ chatroom password nor regist [Re: bluebird002] #191421 08/12/07 08:39 PM
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The script will just sit there waiting for you to be the only person in the channel. When that occurs, then the script will part you from the channel, then re-join it one second later. There is a small chance that someone could enter the channel during that one second period, but it's doubtful.

You must be in the channel for the script to work, so if you were logged out when the channel became empty, then the script couldn't have noticed that the channel was empty and have completed the rest of the code.

Re: can't identify w/ chatroom password nor regist [Re: RusselB] #191422 08/12/07 08:41 PM
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ah, thanks.

that blows a bit. frown I can't see the chatroom ever being empty.. plus when I have to be in it also. there are usually always at least about 5-9 people in it.

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You could always ask the people to leave temporarily so that you can re-register the channel. If they are regulars they probably won't mind, and it only takes a couple of seconds, just as long a you are the first person to re-enter the room.

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Yes, I will do that - only the problem is that many are inactive - not there, sleeping, doing other things, and will not see my msg. guess i would have to set up a temp chatroom until all of them finally see my msg and log out but it's all just so annoying and a hassle.

Re: can't identify w/ chatroom password nor regist [Re: bluebird002] #191429 08/12/07 09:21 PM
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The only other option that I can think of, and I don't suggest this lightly, is to contact an IRCop, preferably one that knows you, and ask them to use their access to temporarily remove the people that have been in the room for a long time, but not said or done anything (ie: the idlers). Some IRCops have this abiltiy, but not all, so even if you ask and the IRCop is willing to do so, they may not have the access.

I suggest you try the previously suggestions (ie: asking people to leave) for a day (or more) before taking this step.

Re: can't identify w/ chatroom password nor regist [Re: bluebird002] #191430 08/12/07 09:22 PM
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Just run a timed message in the channel asking people to move to the temp channel and then just sit there with that script until you're the last person there. Note that this can take weeks or even months to accomplish. In the future, if you're going to be offline for awhile, make sure you have some ops you can trust who will maintain ops there while you're gone.

Note that I'd recommend changing the script to include the channel name you're trying to get back instead of just # for all channels. It won't really hurt to have it for all channels, but you may not want to have it doing this in all of the channels you're in.


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Re: can't identify w/ chatroom password nor regist [Re: bluebird002] #191458 09/12/07 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted By: bluebird002
ah, thanks.

that blows a bit. frown I can't see the chatroom ever being empty.. plus when I have to be in it also. there are usually always at least about 5-9 people in it.


If you set a timed msg and send it to the channel, example: Please leav the channel so I can regain op.

then send it every 60 sec, I would guess people would be smart enough to part the channel smile it takes time, but since you arent that familure with mirc and i dont know if that network have protection against split op i wouldent recomend you to try solve it that way.


if ($me != tired) { return } | else { echo -a Get a pot of coffee now $+($me,.) }